isadore;1740049 wrote:Bush negotiates his financial reward taken from the money for the men and women he sent to receive these terrible wounds.

Both parties agreed to the deal. This is a non story made into a story by douchebags like you who have miserable lives and can't function without going on and on about how people live their lives. Boo fucking hoo.

DeyDurkie5;1740053 wrote:Both parties agreed to the deal. This is a non story made into a story by douchebags like you who have miserable lives and can't function without going on and on about how people live their lives. Boo fucking hoo.

obviously you and Bush share a soulless cash register instead of a conscience. Bush become the United States Commander in Chief, the civilian head of our military. At his command these young men and women went into danger for this country, sacrificed themselves for it, receiving terrible personal damage. And now their leader profits off their pain.

isadore;1740057 wrote:obviously you and Bush share a soulless cash register instead of a conscience. Bush become the United States Commander in Chief, the civilian head of our military. At his command these young men and women went into danger for this country, sacrificed themselves for it, receiving terrible personal damage. And now their leader profits off their pain.

They agreed on a price and they both got something out of it. End of story.

DeyDurkie5;1740059 wrote:They agreed on a price and they both got something out of it. End of story.

for you, Bush apologists and Fox News, maybe but it is not over for others. We will see how Bush reacts to it.

like_that;1739867 wrote:Another libtard bringing up bush 6 years later. What's new?

Just going to repost this.

isadore;1740062 wrote:for you, Bush apologists and Fox News, maybe but it is not over for others. We will see how Bush reacts to it.

He did the speech and got his money as per agreed too on the terms. End of story.

DeyDurkie5;1740076 wrote:He did the speech and got his money as per agreed too on the terms. End of story.

no his reputation took a hit and now he will try to spin his way out of it.

no his reputation took a hit

The people who actually would see this and criticize him for it don't like him anyway. Anybody else who only reads reads the Kos or the HuffPo for the lulz is going to laugh at the utter douchebaggery. People that actually work, pay taxes, and have a concept of how the real world works understand 100%. People that do nothing and collect a government check, like you, ehhh maybe not so much. Look at it this way, he'll pay taxes on that money, so you and some other synchophants will have beer this weekend!

HitsRus;1740100 wrote:The people who actually would see this and criticize him for it don't like him anyway. Anybody else who only reads reads the Kos or the HuffPo for the lulz is going to laugh at the uttdouchebaggery. People that actually work, pay taxes, and have a concept of how the real world works understand 100%. People that do nothing and collect a government check, like you, ehhh maybe not so much. Look at it this way, he'll pay taxes on that money, so you and some other synchophants will have beer this weekend!

gosh a ruddies, your analysis is incorrect as usual, golly you are consistent. You might not be aware of this but some Americans have a high opinion of the military, and many of these people would not be happy that the man who sent these service people into combat leading to extreme personal harm to them, should financially exploit them. And take money away that could be used to help them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/02/war-vets-miss-commander-in-chief-george-w-bush/


Read it and weep small fry.

Bush made the organization over $2 million dollars. He reduced his normal speaking fee 50%, a defacto donation of $75-100,000. That is hardly exploitation of an organization that gladly paid his discounted fee for the ability to make 20X as much.

In the real world, people sell their services to other people/groups/businesses, such that those groups can make money.

LeBron James will sell his services and his celebrity to the Cavaliers next year for $25 million, and the Cavaliers will gladly pay it and make money. He did not give the Cavs a "discount" for the pain and suffering and loss of revenue when he took his talents to South Beach a few years ago. There is nothing wrong with that.


David Meintz, a nationally renown nutritionist, will make money speaking in front of various groups sharing his expertise on diet and nutrition. That's what experts in their field do.

Chelsea Clinton sold her celebrity to a college for a commencement address...price tag $65,000.

George W. Bush, a popular president among the military discounted his usual $200,000 speaker's fee by half and helped a charitable veterans organization raise $2 MILLION plus.

isadore;1740047 wrote:
This is what he sacrificed for our country, but it was too much to ask for Bush to fly coach.

Why is Obama not helping him? Obama has plenty of money; he should write him a check for $10 million for his service.

HitsRus;1739928 wrote:Barry "you can keep your Doctor" Obama? Is he the guy who was MIA while Benghazi burned so he could get to his Vegas fundraiser? Has anyone ever found out where he was while we were under attack?

Most likely nailing hookers with his Secret Service detail.

isadore;1740050 wrote:$120,000 dollars extorted from those who need it, that is the reality

you don't even want to talk about Obama and his Administration extortion, waste and fraud programs... Green energy and Solar Power... Federate waste 154 billion, fraud spending in the VA 6 billion ......
Should we talk about the Clinton Foundation, Sec of State making deals for money, Obama and Hillary can't be found, ending in more lies, fraud, incompetency and four dead American for the Hillary profiteering Foundation..



What Bush, Carter, Clinton does now as touring speaking engagements and the cost is meaningless to the present

.. Goods and services rendered for a price ...

HitsRus;1740112 wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/02/war-vets-miss-commander-in-chief-george-w-bush/


Read it and weep small fry.

Bush made the organization over $2 million dollars. He reduced his normal speaking fee 50%, a defacto donation of $75-100,000. That is hardly exploitation of an organization that gladly paid his discounted fee for the ability to make 20X as much.

In the real world, people sell their services to other people/groups/businesses, such that those groups can make money.

LeBron James will sell his services and his celebrity to the Cavaliers next year for $25 million, and the Cavaliers will gladly pay it and make money. He did not give the Cavs a "discount" for the pain and suffering and loss of revenue when he took his talents to South Beach a few years ago. There is nothing wrong with that.


David Meintz, a nationally renown nutritionist, will make money speaking in front of various groups sharing his expertise on diet and nutrition. That's what experts in their field do.

Chelsea Clinton sold her celebrity to a college for a commencement address...price tag $65,000.

George W. Bush, a popular president among the military discounted his usual $200,000 speaker's fee by half and helped a charitable veterans organization raise $2 MILLION plus.

1. Bush's actual fees ranged from $100,000 to $175,000 dollars, so there was no discount to these veterans, especially considering the $20,000 more for the plane.
2. The poll from last year does not reflect the reaction to this incident. If we went back a year ago and looked at Bill Cosby's reputation it would be high.
3. Others fees or Bush's fees to other groups are not important, he owns a particular debt to this group.
He took $120,000 dollars of money that could have been used to help these people. People who were crippled for taking actions at his command. He was their leader and now he betrays them for money.

sleeper;1740118 wrote:Why is Obama not helping him? Obama has plenty of money; he should write him a check for $10 million for his service.

Gosh a ruddies why act like you care in any way about how this man is treated.

sleeper wrote:Perhaps he should have chosen another career if he was going to be a bitch about it. What did he expect? To sit on base eating bons bons for 6 years?

Belly35;1740132 wrote:you don't even want to talk about Obama and his Administration extortion, waste and fraud programs... Green energy and Solar Power... Federate waste 154 billion, fraud spending in the VA 6 billion ......
Should we talk about the Clinton Foundation, Sec of State making deals for money, Obama and Hillary can't be found, ending in more lies, fraud, incompetency and four dead American for the Hillary profiteering Foundation..



What Bush, Carter, Clinton does now as touring speaking engagements and the cost is meaningless to the present

.. Goods and services rendered for a price ...

gosh a ruddies, try to stay on subject, your mind is wandering.

isadore;1740135 wrote:gosh a ruddies, try to stay on subject, your mind is wandering.

try and stay in the present you're grasping at straws for justification of your failed ideology

but thanks for the recognition I have a mind and it wandering ....

1. Sees thread that appears to be a black hole of stupidity.

2. Looks at who thread starter is.

3. Nods slowly, chuckles, makes quick post and then exits.

I think there is merit to what isadore is saying.

There is obviously only 2 extremes on this thread so it's pointless to add a comment without being a libtard even though I've never voted for a democrat.

He contributing 75k makes it a lot less appalling but it never hurts public opinion to contribute to society without rendering payment.

He always discussed his faith and prayer and it would not be Christian of me to demand it but if his faith decided to produce a "work" where he was helping wounded people who wouldn't be wounded without the farce of a war he demanded it would have been a positive thing versus getting criticized by libtards for this.

Also this has nothing to do with how much you make in a year.


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^^^(at heretic)You know, I can do that too, but I feel a certain responsibility in not acquiescing to deliberate attempt to manipulate the American public. Shaking your head and chuckling is an option for people of some education who can see thru the chicanery, but there are a lot of dumbshits out there that swallow this hook. line and sinker.

Why would anybody care that GWB made money helping a charitable organization make even more? This is nothing new. People use their celebrity all the time to make money for themselves and for organizations, some charitable and some not. The real question is anyone even digging into this at all. Isadore is just a mirror image of what used to be trustworthy mainstream newssources.....spinning and promoting outrage over some things, and ignoring and glossing over others. Why the focus on GWB, when the Clinton's have amassed a personal fortune, collecting over $100 MILLION in speaking fees....Bill touring the world while his wife was Sec of State shaking down organizations for as much as $800K a speech!....and he did not give anything back...in fact, those organizations "donated" to PAC Clinton. But the American public is treated to the selective outrage by media actively attempting to manipulate us. Some news organizations are so bad, that they are nothing more than propaganda outlets for the government...resembling more the TASS news agency of the old Soviet Union than a news agency of a free republic. The press is supposed to be a watchdog, not a fox in the henhouse.

Yeah, you can walk away and shake your head at the stupidity of it, but that would be cooperating with it. It would be one thing if Isadore was just a crazy lone wolf howling at the moon in the wilderness, but you get on social media and you see people actually buying it.

...and no sooner do I say it, then Rydawg slides in between with his post to illustrate it.

There are literally thousands of charitable organizations out there, all with good and noble causes. George Bush and Chelsea Clinton could spend their entire lives giving free speeches and not cover everybody. You have to pick and choose between many worthy causes, and whose to say what is more worthy than the other?The bottom line here is that Bush helped raise $2million for this organization...he didn't "cost" them a penny, their bank ledger is in the black by plenty. Somebody thinks he should have "donated" all of his speaking fee back?...a discount was not enough?...while your at it, are there any other charities out there that that he should be giving free speeches to? LOL. How progressively fascist of you.

Only an asshole judges another man's charity. It's not hard to find who's being generous out there, and you'll find that GWB does more than his "fair" share of giving.....that is if we want to be an asshole and "judge" him at all. But while you sort thru whether he should have donated to this charity rather than that charity, check out your favorite celeb or politician just for lulz.

isadore;1740134 wrote:Gosh a ruddies why act like you care in any way about how this man is treated.

I absolutely care and wonder why Obama is not donating his entire net worth to this guy who sacrificed so much for this country. Why is Obama playing golf when people are being killed?

NOT MY PRESIDENT.

HitsRus;1740152 wrote:...and no sooner do I say it, then Rydawg slides in between with his post to illustrate it.

There are literally thousands of charitable organizations out there, all with good and noble causes. George Bush and Chelsea Clinton could spend their entire lives giving free speeches and not cover everybody. You have to pick and choose between many worthy causes, and whose to say what is more worthy than the other?The bottom line here is that Bush helped raise $2million for this organization...he didn't "cost" them a penny, their bank ledger is in the black by plenty. Somebody thinks he should have "donated" all of his speaking fee back?...a discount was not enough?...while your at it, are there any other charities out there that that he should be giving free speeches to? LOL. How progressively fascist of you.

Only an asshole judges another man's charity. It's not hard to find who's being generous out there, and you'll find that GWB does more than his "fair" share of giving.....that is if we want to be an asshole and "judge" him at all. But while you sort thru whether he should have donated to this charity rather than that charity, check out your favorite celeb or politician just for lulz.

I completely get what you are saying.

Not trying to troll. I also see how the wounded vets from the war in which he was their commander makes this a little different from any other charitable event.

Ultimately him being there was more positive than negative.

I think it wouldn't have been a terrible idea for him to recognize the situation and make an exception to a fee for public perception.

If Urban Meyer made players buy their own pads and sent them out to play even if they didn't have proper protection then had 5 players break their necks, and 10 years down the road the injured players are raising money so players didn't have to buy their own protective gear. If urban charged a 100k speaking fee to that event he would get slack and it wouldn't be political.



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rydawg5;1740158 wrote:I completely get what you are saying.

Not trying to troll. I also see how the wounded vets from the war in which he was their commander makes this a little different from any other charitable event.

Ultimately him being there was more positive than negative.

I think it wouldn't have been a terrible idea for him to recognize the situation and make an exception to a fee for public perception.

If Urban Meyer made players buy their own pads and sent them out to play even if they didn't have proper protection then had 5 players break their necks, and 10 years down the road the injured players are raising money so players didn't have to buy their own protective gear. If urban charged a 100k speaking fee to that event he would get slack and it wouldn't be political.



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Don't people have anything better to do than worry about speaking fees for other people? Get a fucking job.