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Jul 21, 2015 3:54 PM
Lets hope he's not a corpse like the last former Mav we picked up.
Jul 21, 2015 3:54pm
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Jul 21, 2015 4:44 PM
Bench filler.
Jul 21, 2015 4:44pm
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Jul 21, 2015 4:57 PM
sleeper;1741781 wrote:Bench filler.
Yep, Shawn Marion 2.0
Jul 21, 2015 4:57pm
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Jul 21, 2015 5:04 PM
His shooting alone should make him a better fit than Marion ever was. But you guys are right, not moving the needle much.
Jul 21, 2015 5:04pm
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Jul 21, 2015 5:33 PM
Someone to be on the floor the last few minutes went they're up by 20 on Detroit.
Jul 21, 2015 5:33pm
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Jul 21, 2015 5:44 PM
HighRoller74;1741786 wrote:His shooting alone should make him a better fit than Marion ever was. But you guys are right, not moving the needle much.
How much can the needle even move when we were 2 games away from winning a title without Love or Kyrie?
Jul 21, 2015 5:44pm
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Jul 21, 2015 6:21 PM
lhslep134;1741792 wrote:How much can the needle even move when we were 2 games away from winning a title without Love or Kyrie?
Hopefully two mores games with everyone healthy and mo coming off the bench...
Jul 21, 2015 6:21pm
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Jul 21, 2015 6:59 PM
friendfromlowry;1741789 wrote:Someone to be on the floor the last few minutes went they're up by 20 on Detroit.
Rather that be a young guy with a hint of upside. He's a bum.
Jul 21, 2015 6:59pm
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Jul 22, 2015 9:47 AM
Commander of Awesome;1741800 wrote:Rather that be a young guy with a hint of upside. He's a bum.
Except a young guy couldn't accept the veteran's minimum...
Jul 22, 2015 9:47am
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Jul 22, 2015 10:54 AM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741905 wrote:Except a young guy couldn't accept the veteran's minimum...
True. A young guy can accept less.
Jul 22, 2015 10:54am
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Jul 22, 2015 11:18 AM
sleeper;1741931 wrote:True. A young guy can accept less.
And probably 100x better than RJ, he's a washed bum and has been for several seasons. Even the spurs thought he was trash.
Jul 22, 2015 11:18am
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Jul 22, 2015 11:19 AM
Commander of Awesome;1741939 wrote:And probably 100x better than RJ, he's a washed bum and has been for several seasons. Even the spurs thought he was trash.
Agreed. Washed up.
Jul 22, 2015 11:19am
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Jul 22, 2015 12:19 PM
sleeper;1741931 wrote:True. A young guy can accept less.
Commander of Awesome;1741939 wrote:And probably 100x better than RJ, he's a washed bum and has been for several seasons. Even the spurs thought he was trash.
sleeper;1741940 wrote:Agreed. Washed up.
1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.

Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
Jul 22, 2015 12:19pm
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Jul 22, 2015 12:23 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741950 wrote:1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.

Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
He's still shooting 43% from 3 point range so he's not total garbage. Would obviously like to see a younger guy but I'm starting to see that Cavs fans are getting spoiled/picky. Not much they can do with the limited financials they have.
Jul 22, 2015 12:23pm
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Jul 22, 2015 1:15 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741950 wrote:1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.

Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
Only so many roster spots in the NBA. Tons of talented players wasting away in europe while guys like RJ who should have retired 4 season continue to get paychecks for shit they did a decade ago. Cavs FO just being lazy. Sign a guy who doens't have a chance to be in the NBA otherwise than sign retread trash like RJ. Would you rather have Delly, or Stephon Marbury? Give me delly every time at this point in their careers.
Jul 22, 2015 1:15pm
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Jul 22, 2015 1:15 PM
BR1986FB;1741951 wrote:He's still shooting 43% from 3 point range so he's not total garbage. Would obviously like to see a younger guy but I'm starting to see that Cavs fans are getting spoiled/picky. Not much they can do with the limited financials they have.
Umm, we can actually do more/better with less in this situation.
Jul 22, 2015 1:15pm
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Jul 22, 2015 1:17 PM
Commander of Awesome;1741962 wrote:Cavs FO just being lazy.
This comment is funny as fuck.
Jul 22, 2015 1:17pm
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Jul 22, 2015 1:52 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741950 wrote:1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.

Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
We care because it was apparent last season that we don't really have a talented bench. Almost half our bench last year was basically fillers/practice trash(Haywood, Perkins, Marion, Miller) that couldn't even get on the court. Jefferson is close to being in the same category.

We lose 3 of those 4 this year and replaced them with Mo Williams, RJ, and maybe one of the draft picks. Overall, it's not terrible but we could do better I think.
Jul 22, 2015 1:52pm
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Jul 22, 2015 1:54 PM
I'm still hoping we find a decent SF to buy Lebron some minutes during the regular season.
Jul 22, 2015 1:54pm
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Jul 22, 2015 2:06 PM
sleeper;1741979 wrote:
We lose 3 of those 4 this year and replaced them with Mo Williams, RJ, and maybe one of the draft picks..
Don't forget Joe Harris.
Jul 22, 2015 2:06pm
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Jul 22, 2015 2:08 PM
Commander of Awesome;1741962 wrote: Tons of talented players wasting away in europe

Name 5 talented players wasting away in Europe
Jul 22, 2015 2:08pm
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Jul 22, 2015 2:23 PM
lhslep134;1741982 wrote:Name 5 talented players wasting away in Europe
This.

Especially ones that would accept a minimum salary.
Jul 22, 2015 2:23pm
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Jul 22, 2015 2:43 PM
lhslep134;1741982 wrote:Name 5 talented players wasting away in Europe
I'm not an NBA exec, nor do I follow Russian/Spanish/etc... leagues. My whole point was there are players there that can contribute more to the Cavs than RJ can. He's a locker room guy who hasn't been productive in the NBA for several seasons. Its up the front office to find these guys bring them, etc...What's RJ's ceiling? Marion/Miller? I'd rather have a guy that can come in and contribute consistently.
Jul 22, 2015 2:43pm
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Jul 22, 2015 2:44 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741985 wrote:This.

Especially ones that would accept a minimum salary.
What don't you get about this? Min salary is better than no salary, or Dleague salary. DERP

There is someone in the dleague/Euro league that can contribute more than Jefferson can. NBA FO/Coaches JO to too many vets for no good reason. Same reason Perkins is still in the league.
Jul 22, 2015 2:44pm
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Jul 22, 2015 2:50 PM
Commander of Awesome;1741987 wrote: I'd rather have a guy that can come in and contribute consistently.
And there's none in Europe, or else they'd have been brought over. There are talented players in Europe to be sure. But none that are "wasting away" waiting for the first available NBA opportunity.

You're allowed to bitch and moan about signing RJ, but you haven't provided any realistic alternatives so it's just a bunch of noise.
Jul 22, 2015 2:50pm