$3.3 billion in debt daily. we dont need a politician this time around. we need a business man.

Trump has both the right and the left up in arms. He called both sides out and now they're in a tizzy. I'm actually glad that somebody did it, it's about time. However, now that he has both R's and D's feelings, he doesn't have a shot at anything. The media is making him out to be a joke, and maybe he is... I don't know. Pretty much pigeonholed. Just like Perot was, remember that?

I don't care if he wins or not. I don't care if anybody wins, just please... don't let it be a Clinton or a Bush. Gawd!

^^^True

CenterBHSFan;1736013 wrote:Trump has both the right and the left up in arms. He called both sides out and now they're in a tizzy. I'm actually glad that somebody did it, it's about time. However, now that he has both R's and D's feelings, he doesn't have a shot at anything. The media is making him out to be a joke, and maybe he is... I don't know. Pretty much pigeonholed. Just like Perot was, remember that?

I don't care if he wins or not. I don't care if anybody wins, just please... don't let it be a Clinton or a Bush. Gawd!

I think that each and every person in the House and Senate, including and especially the WH should be fired. Replace them all. They have proven to be dysfunctional, arrogant and cannot get one single thing done for the good of the American people.

Fire them all and start over!

wkfan;1736025 wrote:I think that each and every person in the House and Senate, including and especially the WH should be fired. Replace them all. They have proven to be dysfunctional, arrogant and cannot get one single thing done for the good of the American people.

Fire them all and start over!

You actually would want to fire yourselves as voters in a 2 party system.

rydawg5;1736032 wrote:You actually would want to fire yourselves as voters in a 2 party system.

What does this even mean...we don't have a 2 party system

wkfan;1736055 wrote:What does this even mean...we don't have a 2 party system

I'll take the bait.. what are you talking about?

rydawg5;1736032 wrote:You actually would want to fire yourselves as voters in a 2 party system.

At least if you're in the "If you don't vote for a D or R, you're just wasting your vote!!!" moron clique. Those people are a big part of the reason we are where we are at. Another big reason is the national media, which essentially picks who is suitable to win the nomination and gives them all the coverage, up to how, during debates, they get virtually all the air time while the "lesser" candidates are lucky to have any time to speak.

Heretic;1736117 wrote:At least if you're in the "If you don't vote for a D or R, you're just wasting your vote!!!" moron clique. Those people are a big part of the reason we are where we are at.

No, the problem is people like you don't vote in primaries, or there just aren't many people that agree with you. You choose one of the people on the ballot - most people learned that's how elections work since pretty much grade school. I call those people the non-delusional.

People whine and bitch about the two-party (one-party, derp!) system all the time, but there's no evidence the multi-party systems in Europe work any better. I guess you can say the herd politicians to voter groups, while we herd voter groups to politicians. You end up in the same place, but maybe their voters feel better about their choices.

Lol the Donald is 2nd in most polls. If the republican party loses the latino vote like they have for the past two elections there will be another democrat in office.

rmolin73;1738737 wrote:Lol the Donald is 2nd in most polls. If the republican party loses the latino vote like they have for the past two elections there will be another democrat in office.

I wish more people running were like Donald imo. Whether he hurts your feelz or not, he says what's on his mind and what he believes in. He isn't a politically correct ***** like 98% of politicians and he sure as hell won't flip flop on his views like most politicians (I.e. Hilary's stance on gay marriage).

like_that;1738738 wrote:I wish more people running were like Donald imo. Whether he hurts your feelz or not, he says what's on his mind and what he believes in. He isn't a politically correct ***** like 98% of politicians and he sure as hell won't flip flop on his views like most politicians (I.e. Hilary's stance on gay marriage).

He doesn't hurt my feelings one bit I see him for the clown that he is. He's hurting the Republican ticket to say otherwise is foolish. The republicans are just giving the election away.

like_that;1738738 wrote:I wish more people running were like Donald imo. Whether he hurts your feelz or not, he says what's on his mind and what he believes in. He isn't a politically correct ***** like 98% of politicians and he sure as hell won't flip flop on his views like most politicians (I.e. Hilary's stance on gay marriage).

While I agree with that, I also think he's enough of a complete buffoon with his "no personal filter" approach that if he would happen to win the nomination, he'd effectively alienate anyone who isn't either pure party line or in the "I don't give a fuck as long as it isn't Clinton!!!! (or whichever D gets their nomination)". There's a line between "straight-shooter" and "over-the-top bombastic" and Trump has permanent residence on the latter side.

Then again, with his Reality TV persona, Trump could snag the "uneducated dolt" segment of the voting public. At least CC's new account seems fully on board with him, so there's one member of that!

I am voting for Trump he is not a Washington insider. looks like i will have to switch from being a registered democrat

steubbigred;173steubbigred wrote:I am voting for Trump he is not a Washington insider. looks like i will have to switch from being a registered democrat

There you have it. If steubbigred doesn't know batshit crazy then who does?

Turnip is a moron... Seriously.

gut;1738948 wrote:Turnip is a moron... Seriously.

You may not like him, but I think "moron" is a bad descriptor. His business success is not the result of stupidity.

Heretic;1738759 wrote:While I agree with that, I also think he's enough of a complete buffoon with his "no personal filter" approach that if he would happen to win the nomination, he'd effectively alienate anyone who isn't either pure party line or in the "I don't give a fuck as long as it isn't Clinton!!!! (or whichever D gets their nomination)". There's a line between "straight-shooter" and "over-the-top bombastic" and Trump has permanent residence on the latter side.

Then again, with his Reality TV persona, Trump could snag the "uneducated dolt" segment of the voting public. At least CC's new account seems fully on board with him, so there's one member of that!

Fair points. It would be interesting to see a regular candidate (i.e. not a reality celebrity) take Donald's approach. I wonder how it would be received say Kasich was like Donald. Just sick of politicians telling people what they want to hear, because of votes. Just like Hillary all of a sudden on the gay marriage bandwagon even though she has opposed it for the last 20+ years publicly. Democrats really don't give a fuck about the people they "support" (the poor, women, black people, gays, etc), they just are just concerned about their votes. Republicans also don't give a fuck about those people, but I guess I appreciate the fact they don't really try to hide it.

Also I get both sides are 100% guilty of telling the people what they want to hear, but since I think the democrats suck I used them as an example lol.

like_that;1738738 wrote:I wish more people running were like Donald imo. Whether he hurts your feelz or not, he says what's on his mind and what he believes in. He isn't a politically correct ***** like 98% of politicians and he sure as hell won't flip flop on his views like most politicians (I.e. Hilary's stance on gay marriage).

Pretty much this. He says dumb stuff but really he just says stuff because he's not PC. PC is the death of society and its refreshing to have someone say what's on their mind regardless of feelz hurt.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1738970 wrote:You may not like him, but I think "moron" is a bad descriptor. His business success is not the result of stupidity.

It's a result of inheritance, no?

rmolin73;1738737 wrote:Lol the Donald is 2nd in most polls. If the republican party loses the latino vote like they have for the past two elections there will be another democrat in office.

Irrelevant honestly. Remember when Obama was basically a no name candidate and couldn't possibly compete with Hilary?

Donald will do about as well as he did last time around and he barely hit the map.

Just to let everyone know I will not be voting democrat anytime soon, at any level of government.

I'm very much apposed to the removal of the Confederate flag from the SC State House without the vote of the South Caroline people to do so. The view that media and organization around the United State has created this hype is not their issue nor should it be my concern this is the people of SC issue and should be voted on by the people of SC.
As for the few bias organization and media to ban the Confederate flag from all American is also wrong. To start the volley of items that represent to a few individual and organization that would represent slavery, racism, violence and repression in their minds … .. say good bye to long list …… of history, entertainment, symbols and book burning…

Nikki Haley handled the situation in a good and fair manner, without the knee jerk reaction to media and organization pressure. Her proposal, reasoning and concern for SC history, pride and individual rights in her speech was a very thought out and reasonable request. In her speech she indicated that the confederate flag can be the prosperity of individual and their right to fly the flag. The State House is a representation of all the people SC and should be voted and state representation decision for debate this summer.

I think that Nikki Haley demonstrated a good political candidate for VP …

I'm liking Scott Walker for President so far...

What the fuck does that have to do with Donald Trump?

like_that;1738974 wrote:Fair points. It would be interesting to see a regular candidate (i.e. not a reality celebrity) take Donald's approach. I wonder how it would be received say Kasich was like Donald. Just sick of politicians telling people what they want to hear, because of votes. Just like Hillary all of a sudden on the gay marriage bandwagon even though she has opposed it for the last 20+ years publicly. Democrats really don't give a fuck about the people they "support" (the poor, women, black people, gays, etc), they just are just concerned about their votes. Republicans also don't give a fuck about those people, but I guess I appreciate the fact they don't really try to hide it.

Also I get both sides are 100% guilty of telling the people what they want to hear, but since I think the democrats suck I used them as an example lol.

I do agree with that. If there's one remotely enjoyable aspect of the never-ending presidential election season, it's the wingnuts and batshit crazy candidates who will at least speak their mind, to help keep our minds off the sad fact that, regardless of party, the only ones who will be taken particularly seriously are the pure politicians who will do nothing but say what they're told to say in order to appeal to as many people as humanly possible, regardless of they actually have any intention of doing anything that will benefit those people. The only reason I use "remotely enjoyable" instead of "enjoyable" as my phrasing is because if a candidate actually seems interesting, odds are they're be marginalized as soon as possible, so we can focus on which generic career politicians "deserves" the nominations most.

rmolin73;1739030 wrote:What the fuck does that have to do with Donald Trump?

Nothing really but I started a Thread for Nikki Haley some wouldnt know who she is and the other 1/3 would be posting pic of girls with confederate flags on their ass..