gut;1794162 wrote:It's pretty commonly accepted that the moderates/independents don't vote much in primaries. We let the extremes of both parties pick our choices for President - in a record year I think only about 20% of Nov'16 voters are voting in the primaries.

So maybe we'll get better candidates when moderates/independents stop sitting out the nomination process.

Personally, I think the left-wing voters in Democratic primaries are as bat-shit crazy as the right-wingers, just different reasons/issues. These people need to be relegated to the fringe of politics, where they belong, where they have an important contribution to the dialogue but do not dictate policy.

But then you really have a cabal of insiders who set strange party rules that end up controlling who can come out in many ways when the overwhelming majority of citizens have no strong party affiliation.

For the first time, the DOJ admits HRC's email investigation is a criminal investigation, not, as HRC has been claiming, just a security review.

The shoes keep dropping... this time yahoo news had the link to Fox:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/02/judge-napolitano-new-developments-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-justice-department

Apple;1794552 wrote:For the first time, the DOJ admits HRC's email investigation is a criminal investigation, not, as HRC has been claiming, just a security review.

The shoes keep dropping... this time yahoo news had the link to Fox:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/02/judge-napolitano-new-developments-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-justice-department

she could shoot a baby in public and she is still getting 47% of the vote.

Spock;1794606 wrote:she could shoot a baby in public and she is still getting 47% of the vote.

The other 53% going to the guy who'd hand her the gun.

SportsAndLady;1794269 wrote:Yep

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As a Christian that video makes me sick.

Just another lie. And when you watch her say it, it is so, so obvious she is lying. It never ends with her.


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was confronted Monday at a campaign stop in West Virginia by a laid-off coal worker over previous comments she made that “we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”

Clinton was attending a panel discussion with residents and Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin in Williamson, W. Va. when she was asked a question by Bo Copley, who told her he was a laid off worker in the coal industry.
“I just want to know how you can say you’re going to put a lot of coal miners out of, out of jobs, and then come in here and tell us how you’re going to be our friend, because those people out there don’t see you as a friend,” Copley said, sometimes breaking into tears, as the chants of the protesters were heard outside.
Clinton however said her comments in March were a “misstatement,” and that she has been talking about helping out coal country “for a very long time.”
“What I was saying is that the way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs,” Clinton said Monday. “That’s what I meant to say, and I think that that seems to be supported by the facts. I didn’t mean that we were going to do it, what I said was, that is going to happen unless we take action to try to and help and prevent it.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/03/clinton-confronted-by-laid-off-coal-worker-at-west-virginia-campaign-stop.html?intcmp=hpbt1

jmog;1794634 wrote:As a Christian that video makes me sick.

But you are OK with them being republicans..amirite?

Devils Advocate;1794645 wrote:But you are OK with them being republicans..amirite?

I don't give a rats butt who those two vote for. I stated what I thought about them and pretty much have the same feeling for most/all TV evangelists.

Welp, Hillary is all but assured president now that Cruz is dropping out. She is going to be worse than Obama... Wow

I can't believe this country has so many morons who are more concerned about gays and bathrooms than the constitution and the economy.

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gosh a ruddies, what a complete rejection of a "principled conservatism" by the Republican voters. How sweet it is.

Clinton may have lost tonight, but the math still is on her side as they will split delegates.

gosh a ruddies Our first female President of the United States, Hillary Clinton
1. minor step back loss in close vote in the Indiana Primary
2. major step forward, Donald Trump, the Presumptive Republican Presidential Candidate. thank you Republican voters. although nominating Cruz, the anti-
Christ would have been just about as good. He actually believed there were millions of hidden evangelical and tea party voters out there waiting with baited breath for a chance to vote for him.

ptown_trojans_1;1794700 wrote:Clinton may have lost tonight, but the math still is on her side as they will split delegates.

Even if she lost Indiana she probably stole more delegates. That's just the way she is.

Trump will lose similar to how Obama stomped Romney. It won't be close.

Hillary is the next President barring prison(unlikely is an understatement).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/04/us-judge-clinton-may-be-ordered-to-testify-in-records-case.html?intcmp=hpbt2

QuakerOats;1794819 wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/04/us-judge-clinton-may-be-ordered-to-testify-in-records-case.html?intcmp=hpbt2

Do you think her being called to testify will make a difference? It depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.

FatHobbit;1794829 wrote:Do you think her being called to testify will make a difference? It depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.

Who knows, but generally speaking, high powered liberal politicians are able to lie their way out of big trouble.

Another interesting development today in the HRC email situation. Romanian hacker, Guccifer, recently extradited to the USA for alleged cyber crimes, says he hacked the HRC server. He additionally said he saw evidence that many others, with obvious IP addresses from all over the world, had also gained access to The HRC server.

Flip side can't help but think a criminal could easily lie.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/04/romanian-hacker-guccifer-breached-clinton-server-it-was-easy.html

This story still not going away any time soon.

Apple;1794845 wrote:Another interesting development today in the HRC email situation. Romanian hacker, Guccifer, recently extradited to the USA for alleged cyber crimes, says he hacked the HRC server. He additionally said he saw evidence that many others, with obvious IP addresses from all over the world, had also gained access to The HRC server.

Flip side can't help but think a criminal could easily lie.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/04/romanian-hacker-guccifer-breached-clinton-server-it-was-easy.html

This story still not going away any time soon.

I am sick of these reports and want to see something come out of this or not.

i cant wait for these debates.......extra butter popcorn!!!!!

who cares about emails if she's the most qualified candidate???????????? wish this story would die already!

MontyBrunswick;1794989 wrote:who cares about emails if she's the most qualified candidate???????????? wish this story would die already!

the emails are just another thing in a long line of poor decisions and illegal activities.

the PUSA has to be a honest and trustworthy person. SHe is neither

Is Guccifer different from this leak https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/


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FBI interviewed Huma on April 5th.

QuakerOats;1795062 wrote:FBI interviewed Huma on April 5th.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/278916-fbi-interviewed-clinton-aide-huma-abedin-in-email-probe-report#

All the aides have the same lawyer. They have their bs story down. Nothing is going to come out of this, the clintons are untouchable. Bill could fuck a toddler on the street and nothing would come out of it.