
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Mar 17, 2015 6:59pm
At least the Bush family arent washington insiders
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 17, 2015 8:35pm
You mean at least they aren't crooks. Clinton's and Obama's used politics to get their wealth.Spock;1713955 wrote:At least the Bush family arent washington insiders
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Mar 18, 2015 9:56am
lolgut;1713984 wrote:You mean at least they aren't crooks. Clinton's and Obama's used politics to get their wealth.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Mar 18, 2015 9:58am
lol again. The Clinton's and the Bush's are both about as "Washington Insider" as it gets.Spock;1713955 wrote:At least the Bush family arent washington insiders
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 18, 2015 10:01am
gut;1713984 wrote:You mean at least they aren't crooks. Clinton's and Obama's used politics to get their wealth.
Correct. They came in poor and have amassed tens and tens of millions, mainly from shady deals; and they aren't finished.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Mar 18, 2015 12:13pm
Only R I would vote for is Paul.. I will not vote for any Dem. So if Paul isn't the nominee. Gary Johnson it is.

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Mar 19, 2015 12:23pm
Ass don’t roll, departments heads clueless, question don’t get answered, forms are not signed or not found… Federal Government and our elected representative have failed the citizens… WE THE PEOPLE
Hillary Clinton, Learner, VA, Holder and the list goes on and on and on
How many times does this same scenario have to happen both parties incompetence, government out of control, department’s corruption, legal cluster fuck …
Hillary and the State Department and all those individual involved from the janitor to department supervisors need to be subpoenaed with the knowledge that their job, career and pension, plus jail time is on the line … Then the truth will come out…
Hillary should be charge with a felony ... now
Term limits … is step one As citizen we need to demand this now…
Private sector rules apply .. incompetence, corruption and fraud = jail time
All Federal departments to be investigated cut back and funding reevaluated
Hillary Clinton, Learner, VA, Holder and the list goes on and on and on
How many times does this same scenario have to happen both parties incompetence, government out of control, department’s corruption, legal cluster fuck …
Hillary and the State Department and all those individual involved from the janitor to department supervisors need to be subpoenaed with the knowledge that their job, career and pension, plus jail time is on the line … Then the truth will come out…
Hillary should be charge with a felony ... now
Term limits … is step one As citizen we need to demand this now…
Private sector rules apply .. incompetence, corruption and fraud = jail time
All Federal departments to be investigated cut back and funding reevaluated

Apple
Posts: 2,620
Mar 19, 2015 2:52pm
It will be interesting how the topic of Sidney Blumenthal plays out in the whole email and Benghazi investigations.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/18/monica-crowley-was-hillary-clinton-running-her-own/?page=all
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/18/monica-crowley-was-hillary-clinton-running-her-own/?page=all

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Mar 26, 2015 6:58am
Hillary..... Some staff members not using government cell phones, her brother get special treatment for a business opportunity, four dead American Benghazi, server information scam, campaign funds from foreign countries into the Clinton Foundation .... It all this fraud and corruption or Elizabeth Warren ( not my prez) pick
this is the Democrat Socialist Party favorites.....
this is the Democrat Socialist Party favorites.....

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Mar 28, 2015 10:34am
What the differences between Edward Snowden (sp?) and Hillary Clinton?
Federal security was breached ..... Goverment Data taken..... Falsifying information.... Proper protocol not followed .... Destruction of goverment property and data....
Snowden will be arrested put in jail, Hillary run for President....
Federal security was breached ..... Goverment Data taken..... Falsifying information.... Proper protocol not followed .... Destruction of goverment property and data....
Snowden will be arrested put in jail, Hillary run for President....

Apple
Posts: 2,620
Apr 9, 2015 3:07pm
Some recent polls on Hillary seem to go against the norm. History has mostly rewarded her with better poll numbers when she stays silent and likewise, the polls have gone down when she speaks. She has been pretty silent since her comments at the UN last month regarding her emails as SoS.
With Rand Paul entering the race this week, Quinnipiac University poll:
Colorada: Paul 44 Clinton 41
Iowa: Paul 42 Clinton 41
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2184
Interesting article on Quinnipiac poll including this quote:
"It isn't just one or two Republicans who are stepping up; it's virtually the entire GOP field that is running better against her."
FWIW given that its from Karl Rove today in the WSJ:
"Hillary needs more than an image make-over"
http://www.rove.com/articles/578
With Rand Paul entering the race this week, Quinnipiac University poll:
Colorada: Paul 44 Clinton 41
Iowa: Paul 42 Clinton 41
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2184
Interesting article on Quinnipiac poll including this quote:
"It isn't just one or two Republicans who are stepping up; it's virtually the entire GOP field that is running better against her."
FWIW given that its from Karl Rove today in the WSJ:
"Hillary needs more than an image make-over"
http://www.rove.com/articles/578
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Apr 9, 2015 3:27pm
For the betterment of the entire Republican party, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney need to just shut up.Apple;1720355 wrote:
FWIW given that its from Karl Rove today in the WSJ:
"Hillary needs more than an image make-over"
http://www.rove.com/articles/578

Apple
Posts: 2,620
Apr 9, 2015 4:14pm
I agree wkfan. Its time for new leaders to emerge in the GOP.
One thing that struck me in Rove's article was the line: "President Obama is in her (HRC's) corner—he needs her to win to protect his legacy."
I do not think BHO really wants HRC to be the nominee precisely because she would not necessarily protect his legacy. My gut tells me he would rather HRC fades away, possibly with BHO/Valerie assistance, then Warren takes the reigns to swing the country even more to the left.
But back to Rove… I think he is naive not to talk about what the WH is doing behind the scenes to thwart the HRC campaign and the long-term soiled history and rift between BHO and the Clintons.
One thing that struck me in Rove's article was the line: "President Obama is in her (HRC's) corner—he needs her to win to protect his legacy."
I do not think BHO really wants HRC to be the nominee precisely because she would not necessarily protect his legacy. My gut tells me he would rather HRC fades away, possibly with BHO/Valerie assistance, then Warren takes the reigns to swing the country even more to the left.
But back to Rove… I think he is naive not to talk about what the WH is doing behind the scenes to thwart the HRC campaign and the long-term soiled history and rift between BHO and the Clintons.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 9, 2015 4:30pm
I agree with this.Apple;1720395 wrote: My gut tells me he would rather HRC fades away, possibly with BHO/Valerie assistance, then Warren takes the reigns to swing the country even more to the left.
Also Obama doesn't strike me as someone content to bide his time in the shadows, as Bubba did during most of W's term and as W has during Obama's term. Hillary will not stand for Obama criticizing her or second guessing decisions. She won't tolerate even "innocent" undermining by Obama commenting on evolving policy and issues.
There's no love lost between the Clintons and Obama. Hillary would be an obstacle to Obama fully pursuing his second career. Whatever that is, it likely doesn't involve Obama keeping a relatively quiet low profile.

believer
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Apr 13, 2015 4:41am


CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Apr 13, 2015 5:23am
I won't be voting for her. Nor will I be voting for Jeb Bush. These two just need to ride away into the sunset, learn origami or maybe even take up knitting.

TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Apr 13, 2015 9:10am


ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Apr 15, 2015 5:50pm
I could vote for Rand Paul. He's the only R not out of touch with reality. Rubio and Cruz? NFW.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 6:51pm
This is why I want rand to run. People like you would consider him.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1721822 wrote:I could vote for Rand Paul. He's the only R not out of touch with reality. Rubio and Cruz? NFW.

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 15, 2015 6:54pm
Rand is the only major party candidate that has any chance at my vote. He could still fuck that up, but I won't even consider the others.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1721822 wrote:I could vote for Rand Paul. He's the only R not out of touch with reality. Rubio and Cruz? NFW.

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 15, 2015 6:55pm
Also:

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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Apr 15, 2015 6:56pm
Rand won't make it because Neo Cons and Bible Thumpers won't let him win the primary.

ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Apr 15, 2015 7:08pm
This. Unfortunately.Wolves of Babylon;1721848 wrote:Rand won't make it because Neo Cons and Bible Thumpers won't let him win the primary.

Apple
Posts: 2,620
Apr 15, 2015 8:55pm
Interesting "People on the Mall" reaction to the Hillary logo:
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/video-americans-give-their-thoughts-hillarys-new-campaign-logo
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/video-americans-give-their-thoughts-hillarys-new-campaign-logo
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gut
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Apr 15, 2015 9:10pm
