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Aug 6, 2015 10:31 AM
The FBI investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s unsecured email account is not just a fact-finding venture — it’s a criminal probe, sources told The Post on Wednesday.
The feds are investigating to what extent Clinton relied on her home server and other private devices to send and store classified documents, according to a federal source with knowledge of the inquiry.
“It’s definitely a criminal probe,” said the source. “I’m not sure why they’re not calling it a criminal probe.
“The DOJ [Department of Justice] and FBI can conduct civil investigations in very limited circumstances,” but that’s not what this is, the source stressed. “In this case, a security violation would lead to criminal charges. Maybe DOJ is trying to protect her campaign.”

http://nypost.com/2015/08/05/fbi-investigation-of-hillarys-emails-is-criminal-probe/

Aug 6, 2015 10:31am
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Aug 6, 2015 10:41 AM
QuakerOats;1744587 wrote:The FBI investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s unsecured email account is not just a fact-finding venture — it’s a criminal probe, sources told The Post on Wednesday.
The feds are investigating to what extent Clinton relied on her home server and other private devices to send and store classified documents, according to a federal source with knowledge of the inquiry.
“It’s definitely a criminal probe,” said the source. “I’m not sure why they’re not calling it a criminal probe.
“The DOJ [Department of Justice] and FBI can conduct civil investigations in very limited circumstances,” but that’s not what this is, the source stressed. “In this case, a security violation would lead to criminal charges. Maybe DOJ is trying to protect her campaign.”

http://nypost.com/2015/08/05/fbi-investigation-of-hillarys-emails-is-criminal-probe/

She is above the law and every Senator and Congress representation will agree to not hold Hillary accountable ... with a crime and potential jail time.. If that ball starts rolling it withh be Party Line Target Practice

Hillary will step out of the race, democrats will circle the wagons, legal system federal legal sysytem will bend and Hillary will be gone unscaved for he incompencey, fruad and corruption... This process will continue as long as we dont have term limits. The same cluster fuck will happen with the IRS and other fruad departments and individuals until we have term limits.
Aug 6, 2015 10:41am
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Aug 6, 2015 8:22 PM
yeah, wouldn't surprise me if it isn't Clinton herself putting this stuff out there....the liberal media will give the stories lip service, and by the time elections roll around in about 14 months all this will be "old news". Mind you, they STILL talk about and blame W for whatever fits their spin.
Aug 6, 2015 8:22pm
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Aug 12, 2015 9:33 AM
Her partner-in-crime, I mean husband, sold defense secrets to the Chinese for campaign donations, and somehow covered it up and escaped prosecution. She learned a lot from him. She couldn't tell the truth if it were to serve her better.
Aug 12, 2015 9:33am
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Aug 12, 2015 9:56 AM
Look for Elizabeth Warren to come into the mix real soom....

Here comes Joey Biden, Andrew Cuomo and Martin O'Malley ....is will be a cluster fuck real soom... that a good thing for America
Aug 12, 2015 9:56am
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Aug 12, 2015 8:28 PM
Hopefully they won't find any of Slick Willy's kiddie porn
Aug 12, 2015 8:28pm
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Aug 13, 2015 12:18 AM
A question I have concerning the whole HRC email thing may or may not tie into what seems to be the DOJ's premise that they and the FBI are not looking at HRC individually as a "perp" in their investigation(s).

It seems that some think they are after underlings who may have altered classifications of emails to eliminate any "Classified" stigma to the correspondence.

But my question is.... How was HRC given the ability to operate a "personal server" in the first place?

Could the reason HRC is not the primary target of the investiation(s) be that they are looking into who gave authorization for her to take her communications out of reach of outside inquisitions?

No boss that I've ever had would allow me to conduct work business through my personal email.
Aug 13, 2015 12:18am
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Aug 13, 2015 5:54 AM
She's a Clinton. Rules don't apply.
Aug 13, 2015 5:54am
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Aug 13, 2015 9:09 AM
Apple;1745642 wrote:A question I have concerning the whole HRC email thing may or may not tie into what seems to be the DOJ's premise that they and the FBI are not looking at HRC individually as a "perp" in their investigation(s).

It seems that some think they are after underlings who may have altered classifications of emails to eliminate any "Classified" stigma to the correspondence.

But my question is.... How was HRC given the ability to operate a "personal server" in the first place?

Could the reason HRC is not the primary target of the investiation(s) be that they are looking into who gave authorization for her to take her communications out of reach of outside inquisitions?

No boss that I've ever had would allow me to conduct work business through my personal email.
She didn't ask......just went ahead and did it.

Royalty does not need to ask permission. That is for the commoners.....
Aug 13, 2015 9:09am
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Aug 13, 2015 9:47 AM
I cant wait till a debate where someone calls her out for either breaking the law and lying about it. telling her that playing stupid and saying she wasnt aware of the laws is going to look good to.

She cant use the line "what does it matter now". She already used it

She will blow a gasket and lose it in a manner that Howard Dean would approve of.
Aug 13, 2015 9:47am
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Aug 13, 2015 9:59 AM
Spock;1745666 wrote:I cant wait till a debate where someone calls her out for either breaking the law and lying about it. telling her that playing stupid and saying she wasnt aware of the laws is going to look good to.

She cant use the line "what does it matter now". She already used it

She will blow a gasket and lose it in a manner that Howard Dean would approve of.
The server will be deleted some what of information but if Hillary took huge efforts the information will never be recovered but if she was stupid the FBI can and will recover the information
Aug 13, 2015 9:59am
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Aug 13, 2015 11:25 AM
Apple;1745642 wrote: No boss that I've ever had would allow me to conduct work business through my personal email.
Hillary/Obama's staff are not the first to do this. Bush had a similar issue.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
Aug 13, 2015 11:25am
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Aug 13, 2015 12:02 PM
FatHobbit;1745682 wrote:Hillary/Obama's staff are not the first to do this. Bush had a similar issue.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
"But... But... But... Bush did it too" is a red herring and doesn't mean that what HRC et al did was legal. Because heads rolled in the Bush case, it actually gives more credence to there being similar repercussions in the HRC situation.
Aug 13, 2015 12:02pm
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Aug 13, 2015 1:58 PM
"HILLARY CLINTON IS FACINGaccusations that someone in her 'inner circle' illegally stripped the classification markings from her personal emails, after it was revealed that 'top secret' information traversed her private server when she was secretary of state."
Aug 13, 2015 1:58pm
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Aug 13, 2015 2:38 PM
Apple;1745689 wrote:"But... But... But... Bush did it too" is a red herring and doesn't mean that what HRC et al did was legal. Because heads rolled in the Bush case, it actually gives more credence to there being similar repercussions in the HRC situation.
I am not defending Clinton at all. I can't stand her and registered as a Democrat to vote against her in 2008. I do see why anyone might think I was trying to say "Bush did it first" :)

My only point was that having private email servers seems to be a common way to get around having every email conversation be a part of the public record.
Aug 13, 2015 2:38pm
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Aug 13, 2015 10:27 PM
reports that the server was scrubbed will likely not help HC. Deleting state material is a felony also.
Aug 13, 2015 10:27pm
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Aug 14, 2015 3:00 PM
Interesting article Quaker.

Not looking good for HRC thanks to her email/personal server situation. Now they're talking about violations to the espionage act!

Over/Under date for suspension of candidacy Thanksgiving Day 2015?
Aug 14, 2015 3:00pm
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Aug 14, 2015 3:09 PM
Apple;1745868 wrote:Interesting article Quaker.

Not looking good for HRC thanks to her email/personal server situation. Now they're talking about violations to the espionage act!

Over/Under date for suspension of candidacy Thanksgiving Day 2015?
She will get away with it.
Aug 14, 2015 3:09pm
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Aug 14, 2015 3:17 PM
like_that;1745872 wrote:She will get away with it.
This.
Aug 14, 2015 3:17pm
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Aug 14, 2015 4:30 PM
like_that;1745872 wrote:She will get away with it.
You may be correct… would you like that? (lil' pun there!)

Legally she may indeed get away with it. However, politically she very well may be on a sinking ship. This is a thread about her candidacy so that is how I am looking at this situation. It will be interesting who may enter the race if/when she bows out.

That said… I could see people in the intelligence community throwing a huge fit and demanding a legal outcome. Military folk may rise up too and help force the lawyers and judges to stay involved
Aug 14, 2015 4:30pm
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Aug 14, 2015 5:20 PM
Apple;1745879 wrote:You may be correct… would you like that? (lil' pun there!)

Legally she may indeed get away with it. However, politically she very well may be on a sinking ship. This is a thread about her candidacy so that is how I am looking at this situation. It will be interesting who may enter the race if/when she bows out.

That said… I could see people in the intelligence community throwing a huge fit and demanding a legal outcome. Military folk may rise up too and help force the lawyers and judges to stay involved
She will get away with it in all regards most likely. I think you are underestimating how dumb the voting base is and their lack of value for integrity.

I've already had a democrat friend tell me that he despises Hillary, but when asked if he will vote for her he said yes...

Another acquaintance who is not my friend and sucks, told me she doesn't "give a shit" about the emails and hillary's lack of integrity. I can't make this shit up.
Aug 14, 2015 5:20pm