krazie45
Posts: 1,055
May 16, 2010 11:47am
It would be nice to get a veteran receiver in there just to be a locker room presence more than anything. I was really pulling for them to sign Torry Holt before the Pats pulled the trigger.
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big_hits24
Posts: 175
May 16, 2010 4:53pm
Hoping that Robiskie can have somewhat of a successfull season...He has pretty decent hands. I think he could be a good posession WR. Ben Watson will help out the passing game dramtically though
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pkebker
Posts: 760
May 16, 2010 5:25pm
I agree about Watson. A good pass catching tight end is extremely vital for a passing game.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 16, 2010 7:54pm
Jesus...I hate getting on here anymore. EVERY fucking thread is about Lebron James.
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
May 16, 2010 8:33pm
+1 buddy...BR1986FB wrote: Jesus...I hate getting on here anymore. EVERY fucking thread is about Lebron James.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
May 17, 2010 12:10pm
"Cleveland's restritcted free-agent pass rusher Matt Roth asked the Browns today to trade him. Two side too far apart on long-term deal."
- Adam Schefter Twitter
- Adam Schefter Twitter
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
May 17, 2010 12:48pm
Jesus Christ the guy plays less than half a season and wants the whole fucking pie>GTFOpkebker wrote: "Cleveland's restritcted free-agent pass rusher Matt Roth asked the Browns today to trade him. Two side too far apart on long-term deal."
- Adam Schefter Twitter
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
May 17, 2010 12:56pm
I like Roth but he needs to shut up and play. He still has a lot to prove before he deserves a big contract. I say trade the fucker for a veteran WR
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pkebker
Posts: 760
May 17, 2010 2:59pm
We should have traded Roth instead of Wimbley lol. He definitely played well when he was with us, but I don't understand why he would think he deserves a big contract when he was cut by one team last season, and then played well in four games or so. C'mon dude, stop listening to your agent and use some common sense.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 17, 2010 3:16pm
Nothing to see here on the Roth front. He can kick and scream, bitch & moan and whine ALL he wants but, just like the diva, Josh Cribbs (lost a SHITLOAD of respect for Cribbs in the way he and his agent handled that contract situation), the Browns don't have to give him shit if they don't want to and he'll either play or sit out. If the Browns hold their ground, bet he plays instead of sitting.
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
May 17, 2010 4:15pm
The guy obviously just doesn't want to be in Cleveland. Cant say I blame him.pkebker wrote: "Cleveland's restritcted free-agent pass rusher Matt Roth asked the Browns today to trade him. Two side too far apart on long-term deal."
- Adam Schefter Twitter
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big_hits24
Posts: 175
May 17, 2010 4:20pm
If he was cut by the Dolphins that must mean they don't think too great of him. He only played 4 games and he thinks he's a stud..And I don't really think he would be able to play/start anywhere else so if he wants to play he might as well stay in Cleveland.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
May 17, 2010 6:20pm
He only played 4 games, but he was one of the best players on the field when he played. That said, gotta go with the feelings of everyone else on here. Come in, keep your mouth shut, practice hard, play great this season, and maybe than the front office wants to talk.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 17, 2010 8:32pm
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pkebker
Posts: 760
May 17, 2010 8:50pm
^^^^ Heckert is a smart man. Glad to see we have competent people running our FO now.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 17, 2010 9:02pm
^^^^exactly what I said earlier. Just like Cribbs, Roth has no leverage.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 18, 2010 2:33pm
Off topic but in the "water is wet/ color me shocked" department, Kellen Winslow will miss Tampa's OTA's due to a 5th knee surgery.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
May 18, 2010 2:34pm
2 more years max for him, at low productivity.
That was a quality dump.
That was a quality dump.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
May 18, 2010 3:25pm
big_hits24 wrote: If he was cut by the Dolphins that must mean they don't think too great of him. He only played 4 games and he thinks he's a stud..And I don't really think he would be able to play/start anywhere else so if he wants to play he might as well stay in Cleveland.
Miami felt he was milking an injury and they cut him.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
May 18, 2010 4:15pm
I really hope this new management team will model their approach to renegotiations/holdouts after the Steelers. There is absolutely no reason to set a guy up with a huge deal for 4 years based off of 6 games.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
May 18, 2010 7:19pm
Browns signed another kicker, Shane Suisham. Probably because Dawson is still holding out...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 18, 2010 8:23pm
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Sonofanump
May 18, 2010 10:43pm
Shaun kicked at BG and the Cowboys.pkebker wrote: Browns signed another kicker, Shane Suisham. Probably because Dawson is still holding out...
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pkebker
Posts: 760
May 19, 2010 7:34am
Pluto has a good point, if those guys play like Cribbs, then they can get paid like Cribbs, if not shut up
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 19, 2010 8:20am
Browns QB Delhomme aims to reverse ‘winning-to-misery’ trend
By Steve Doerschuk
CantonRep.com staff report
Posted May 18, 2010 @ 07:07 PM
Last update May 18, 2010 @ 10:23 PM
BEREA — New Browns starting quarterback Jake Delhomme has been around. Take a look around as spring practice gets rolling.
His primary running backs and wide receivers figure to be Jerome Harrison, Monterio Hardesty, Peyton Hillis, Mohamed Massaquoi, Brian Robiskie and Josh Cribbs — average age, 24.
“I know there are a lot of young guys,” the 35-year-old slinger says.
Delhomme has been up — in 2008, only Tennessee had a better record than his Carolina team’s 12-4.
He’s been down — beginning with a bad playoff loss to the Eagles on Jan. 10, 2008, his record for his last 12 starts is 4-8 (Derek Anderson was 5-7 in his last 12 Browns starts).
“There’s winning, and then there’s misery in the National Football League,” the 12th-year pro says. “There’s no in-between.”
What happens this fall — one more day in the sun, or a fade to black — doesn’t change what almost surely comes next. He will be the starter in September and keep the job unless he plays poorly or gets hurt.
Cribbs acknowledges as much, saying in a live chat on nfl.com:
“Jake Delhomme is our veteran quarterback. He’s a guy that’s going to usher in all the up-and-coming talent. Seneca Wallace will be a triple-threat, running, passing and Wildcat. He’ll be the relief pitcher. Colt McCoy will be the future.”
When President Mike Holmgren agreed to pay Delhomme big money this season, it was based on a projection Delhomme can start and operate the Browns’ offense much better than Anderson and Brady Quinn did in 2009.
Conclusions that led to signing Delhomme most likely override anything short of disaster in Dehomme’s preseason play. For now, he’s trying to sharpen his game in non-contact spring practices.
Delhomme’s preseason work has been an erratic indicator of what he will look like in the real games.
For example ...
In his first extensive work during the 2007 preseason, Delhomme threw wildly at Philadelphia, was intercepted once, and took three sacks in a half of work. In the first three real games, he threw eight TD passes and just one pick and had game ratings above 100.
In the 2009 preseason, he looked sharp in his final major tuneup, passing for 180 yards and posting a 106.2 rating in a half of work against the Ravens. In the first real game, he threw four interceptions in a 38-10 home loss to Philadelphia.
Head Coach Eric Mangini said he trusts Delhomme’s “body of work.” The national media can’t get past Delhomme’s age and his 2009 collapse.
In placing the Browns 29th in his first 2010 NFL team rankings, Peter King of Sports Illustrated wrote, “(I) still can’t believe the Browns could end up paying Jake Delhomme $7 million to play quarterback this year.”
Delhomme’s last game in 2009, a 17-6 loss to the Jets, was a nightmare. He went 14-of-34 for 130 yards, with four interceptions and three sacks. His season rating of 59.4 was more than 20 points lower than his worst in the previous six seasons.
“When you bring someone in,” Mangini said, “you look at the body of work. Jake has an outstanding body of work.”
In groping for an explanation of why his 2009 turned out so poorly, Delhomme says he did too much thinking and forgot how to have fun.
“I don’t think there’s any doubt,” he said. “I just tried to do too way much, and I wasn’t myself.”
The last time Delhomme joined a new team, Carolina in 2003, he didn’t become the starter until early in the regular season. The Panthers, who were 7-9 the previous season, became a Super Bowl team several months later.
From Day One in Cleveland, he has the advantage of working with the “ones.”
It doesn’t cost anything to dream.
“This team won the last four games,” Delhomme says. “I don’t care how you look at it. When a team is 1-11 and you win the last four, there’s something. I don’t know what it is, but ...”
One big “but” ... these years later, what is Delhomme?
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x884182515/Browns-QB-Delhomme-aims-to-reverse-winning-to-misery-trend
By Steve Doerschuk
CantonRep.com staff report
Posted May 18, 2010 @ 07:07 PM
Last update May 18, 2010 @ 10:23 PM
BEREA — New Browns starting quarterback Jake Delhomme has been around. Take a look around as spring practice gets rolling.
His primary running backs and wide receivers figure to be Jerome Harrison, Monterio Hardesty, Peyton Hillis, Mohamed Massaquoi, Brian Robiskie and Josh Cribbs — average age, 24.
“I know there are a lot of young guys,” the 35-year-old slinger says.
Delhomme has been up — in 2008, only Tennessee had a better record than his Carolina team’s 12-4.
He’s been down — beginning with a bad playoff loss to the Eagles on Jan. 10, 2008, his record for his last 12 starts is 4-8 (Derek Anderson was 5-7 in his last 12 Browns starts).
“There’s winning, and then there’s misery in the National Football League,” the 12th-year pro says. “There’s no in-between.”
What happens this fall — one more day in the sun, or a fade to black — doesn’t change what almost surely comes next. He will be the starter in September and keep the job unless he plays poorly or gets hurt.
Cribbs acknowledges as much, saying in a live chat on nfl.com:
“Jake Delhomme is our veteran quarterback. He’s a guy that’s going to usher in all the up-and-coming talent. Seneca Wallace will be a triple-threat, running, passing and Wildcat. He’ll be the relief pitcher. Colt McCoy will be the future.”
When President Mike Holmgren agreed to pay Delhomme big money this season, it was based on a projection Delhomme can start and operate the Browns’ offense much better than Anderson and Brady Quinn did in 2009.
Conclusions that led to signing Delhomme most likely override anything short of disaster in Dehomme’s preseason play. For now, he’s trying to sharpen his game in non-contact spring practices.
Delhomme’s preseason work has been an erratic indicator of what he will look like in the real games.
For example ...
In his first extensive work during the 2007 preseason, Delhomme threw wildly at Philadelphia, was intercepted once, and took three sacks in a half of work. In the first three real games, he threw eight TD passes and just one pick and had game ratings above 100.
In the 2009 preseason, he looked sharp in his final major tuneup, passing for 180 yards and posting a 106.2 rating in a half of work against the Ravens. In the first real game, he threw four interceptions in a 38-10 home loss to Philadelphia.
Head Coach Eric Mangini said he trusts Delhomme’s “body of work.” The national media can’t get past Delhomme’s age and his 2009 collapse.
In placing the Browns 29th in his first 2010 NFL team rankings, Peter King of Sports Illustrated wrote, “(I) still can’t believe the Browns could end up paying Jake Delhomme $7 million to play quarterback this year.”
Delhomme’s last game in 2009, a 17-6 loss to the Jets, was a nightmare. He went 14-of-34 for 130 yards, with four interceptions and three sacks. His season rating of 59.4 was more than 20 points lower than his worst in the previous six seasons.
“When you bring someone in,” Mangini said, “you look at the body of work. Jake has an outstanding body of work.”
In groping for an explanation of why his 2009 turned out so poorly, Delhomme says he did too much thinking and forgot how to have fun.
“I don’t think there’s any doubt,” he said. “I just tried to do too way much, and I wasn’t myself.”
The last time Delhomme joined a new team, Carolina in 2003, he didn’t become the starter until early in the regular season. The Panthers, who were 7-9 the previous season, became a Super Bowl team several months later.
From Day One in Cleveland, he has the advantage of working with the “ones.”
It doesn’t cost anything to dream.
“This team won the last four games,” Delhomme says. “I don’t care how you look at it. When a team is 1-11 and you win the last four, there’s something. I don’t know what it is, but ...”
One big “but” ... these years later, what is Delhomme?
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x884182515/Browns-QB-Delhomme-aims-to-reverse-winning-to-misery-trend