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jmog

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Apr 23, 2010 10:31 AM
Don't read too much into Haden's 40 at the combine, its well documented he ran with a messed up back.

Once Berry was gone I was hoping for a trade down or Haden since I knew Brown could play safety once Haden is up to speed.

It has been reported we tried to trade down but no one wanted to trade up for even close to equal value (FYI, we got raped last year in our trade downs).

Haden will probably start off as the nickle corner and Brown might eventually move to safety and have Wright/Haden as our 2 CBs...give it a year and the Jets might be the only team in the NFL with a better CB tandem.
Apr 23, 2010 10:31am
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SportsAndLady

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Apr 23, 2010 10:33 AM
Yeah I definitely see a CB combo of Haden and Eazy E and then Sheldon Brown moving to safety, which he is more than capable of doing.
Apr 23, 2010 10:33am
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j_crazy

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Apr 23, 2010 10:37 AM
miami has a great CB duo as well. and both are 2nd year players.
Apr 23, 2010 10:37am
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BR1986FB

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Apr 23, 2010 10:41 AM
Sergio Kindle probably skipped in first round because of injury
12:54 AM Fri, Apr 23, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz


Rivals.com reported before the first round of the NFL Draft on Thursday that former Texas linebacker Sergio Kindle might not be picked until later rounds because of a knee injury he sustained at one point this season. Teams see him as a "serious" medical risk because of his knee, which one team said looks like it could require microfracture surgery.

The injury didn't seem to pose any problems during the BCS national championship game, however, where he posted 2.5 sacks.

Microfracture is a surgery to create cartilage in the knee when it becomes a bone-on-bone situation. It's a surgery athletes tend to have near the end of their careers, not the beginning.

Rivals.com said that Kindle's medical exams showed a series of trauma on the knee that could limit his career.

Athletes have played through injuries such as this one, but it is still something NFL teams need to evaluate before drafting someone.

Rumor has it that New England is interested in Kindle, so we'll see if they come around in the second round Friday.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/sergio-kindle-probably-skipped-in-first.html
Apr 23, 2010 10:41am
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j_crazy

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Apr 23, 2010 10:51 AM
DO NOT WANT.
Apr 23, 2010 10:51am
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Al Capone

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Apr 23, 2010 11:15 AM
I can only hope that Bens 1st game back is against the Clowns, so I can watch a real assualt take place. Ben shredding Joe Haden and the rest of that secondary for about 400 yds. hahaha cant wait.
Apr 23, 2010 11:15am
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Apr 23, 2010 11:17 AM
Al Capone wrote: I can only hope that Bens penis gingerly touches my face
That's...weird
Apr 23, 2010 11:17am
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Benny The Jet

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Apr 23, 2010 11:20 AM
Al Capone wrote: I can only hope that Bens 1st game back is against the Clowns, so I can watch a real assualt take place. Ben shredding Joe Haden and the rest of that secondary for about 400 yds. hahaha cant wait.
Kind of like he did the last time he played the Browns? Or do you mean this coming year when he'll have 1 less playmaker to throw to? :s
Apr 23, 2010 11:20am
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Non

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Apr 23, 2010 11:22 AM
They won't even need Ben to throw to wide open Mike Wallace after he toasts 4.57 Joe Haden. :D
Apr 23, 2010 11:22am
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Apr 23, 2010 11:24 AM
Non wrote: They won't even need Ben to throw to wide open Mike Wallace after he toasts 4.57 Joe Haden. :D
If only he had that SEC spe......ooooo
Apr 23, 2010 11:24am
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BR1986FB

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Apr 23, 2010 11:33 AM
Non wrote: They won't even need Ben to throw to wide open Mike Wallace after he toasts 4.57 Joe Haden. :D
That is if he can get the ball off before Matt Roth squashes him. :D
Apr 23, 2010 11:33am
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Al Capone

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Apr 23, 2010 11:33 AM
Benny The Jet wrote:
Al Capone wrote: I can only hope that Bens 1st game back is against the Clowns, so I can watch a real assualt take place. Ben shredding Joe Haden and the rest of that secondary for about 400 yds. hahaha cant wait.
Kind of like he did the last time he played the Browns? Or do you mean this coming year when he'll have 1 less playmaker to throw to? :s
Randel El
Arnaz Battles
Golden Tate???
Apr 23, 2010 11:33am
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Al Capone

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Apr 23, 2010 11:34 AM
BR1986FB wrote:
Non wrote: They won't even need Ben to throw to wide open Mike Wallace after he toasts 4.57 Joe Haden. :D
That is if he can get the ball off before Matt Roth squashes him. :D
All kidding aside. Who is Matt Roth?
Apr 23, 2010 11:34am
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Apr 23, 2010 11:35 AM
Well I hope Haden had something wrong with him when he ran a 4.57 at the combine. Of course he wasn't "100%." What's interesting is that he ran 4.45 at the Florida Pro day, increasing his time by over .1 of a second. Coincidentally, Carlos Dunlap also increased his combine 40 time by .1 of a second at the Florida pro day. Fast track? Ideal weather conditions? Also, usually pro day 40 times are hand timed as well.
Apr 23, 2010 11:35am
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jmog

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Apr 23, 2010 11:36 AM
Al Capone wrote: I can only hope that Bens 1st game back is against the Clowns, so I can watch a real assualt take place. Ben shredding Joe Haden and the rest of that secondary for about 400 yds. hahaha cant wait.
So Ben has had one game his entire 6 year career (11 games) against Cleveland that he threw for over 300 yards and all the sudden he shreds them every time?

He averages 221 yrd/gm against Cleveland. Hardly HOF stats, but obviously not bad either.
Apr 23, 2010 11:36am
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Al Capone

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Apr 23, 2010 11:39 AM
jmog wrote:
Al Capone wrote: I can only hope that Bens 1st game back is against the Clowns, so I can watch a real assualt take place. Ben shredding Joe Haden and the rest of that secondary for about 400 yds. hahaha cant wait.
So Ben has had one game his entire 6 year career (11 games) against Cleveland that he threw for over 300 yards and all the sudden he shreds them every time?

He averages 221 yrd/gm against Cleveland. Hardly HOF stats, but obviously not bad either.
What's his record against your Clowns? hahaha:cool:
Apr 23, 2010 11:39am
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Apr 23, 2010 11:40 AM
Al Capone wrote: Randel El
Arnaz Battles
Golden Tate???
You call those "playmakers"? More like holy trinity of suckitude.....a has been, a never was, and a never will be
Apr 23, 2010 11:40am
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jmog

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Apr 23, 2010 11:42 AM
No offense to the Stiller fans, but you guys really got raped with the Holmes trade, and it wasn't Big Ben doing the raping either.

I know Holmes is having off the field issues, but you traded away your #1 WR, a guy that was the 7th WR yards wise last year, for a 5th round pick.

Who, on the Steeler's roster is going to replace over 1200 yards receiving, and please don't say an aging Ward.
Apr 23, 2010 11:42am
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BR1986FB

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Apr 23, 2010 11:42 AM
I like Golden Taint but Battle & Randle are nothing.
Apr 23, 2010 11:42am
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jmog

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Apr 23, 2010 11:43 AM
Al Capone wrote:
jmog wrote:
Al Capone wrote: I can only hope that Bens 1st game back is against the Clowns, so I can watch a real assualt take place. Ben shredding Joe Haden and the rest of that secondary for about 400 yds. hahaha cant wait.
So Ben has had one game his entire 6 year career (11 games) against Cleveland that he threw for over 300 yards and all the sudden he shreds them every time?

He averages 221 yrd/gm against Cleveland. Hardly HOF stats, but obviously not bad either.
What's his record against your Clowns? hahaha:cool:


Oh I didn't say he wasn't a good QB and I didn't say he hasn't beat us.

I just corrected your statement of him shredding us all of the field, which hasn't been the case in 10 of 11 games as he only has 1 300 yard game against us.
Apr 23, 2010 11:43am
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buckeyes_woowee

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Apr 23, 2010 11:46 AM
I highly doubt the Steelers get Tate
Apr 23, 2010 11:46am
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Apr 23, 2010 11:47 AM
They're not going to get Tate. Colbert said the Steelers won't trade up in Round 2.

But anyway, the Steelers will be fine offensively. They're more about spreading it around and being balanced than one player putting up the stats.

They did go for 523 yards -- Ben 417 passing yards -- in the first meeting against the vaunted Browns defense.
Apr 23, 2010 11:47am
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BR1986FB

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Apr 23, 2010 11:48 AM
Not to turn this into a black & urine thread but I think the Steelers will try to recreate themselves, a bit, offensively.

With the loss of Holmes and the addition of the "man kisser" Pouncey, I see them running the ball a bit more and having a more balanced offense. The Rooney's obviously aren't the coaches but I think the ywould like to get them back to that style of football.

That being said, I don't think the Browns will "fear" their rushing attack because Mendenhall is kinda soft.
Apr 23, 2010 11:48am