Bruce Jenner to become a woman

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jmog
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Jun 3, 2015 11:11am
Zoltan;1732092 wrote:Why do you have a problem with that?
Why would I have a problem with teenage boys and girls sharing bathrooms in HS? Oh, IDK, I could start a bulleted list that starts with many different things that they typically put people on the sexual predator lists for.

If a boy, currently, goes into a girls bathroom for any reason he gets suspended (for good reason). If a boy, calls himself a girl, and goes into a girls bathroom then he is allowed (in some jurisdictions, but it is coming to everywhere in the US soon).

I don't care if you are gay, straight, trans, bi, whatever, but why can't week keep the idea of going to the bathroom in whatever one you have the parts for?
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Zoltan
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Jun 3, 2015 11:15am
jmog;1732099 wrote:Why would I have a problem with teenage boys and girls sharing bathrooms in HS? Oh, IDK, I could start a bulleted list that starts with many different things that they typically put people on the sexual predator lists for.

If a boy, currently, goes into a girls bathroom for any reason he gets suspended (for good reason). If a boy, calls himself a girl, and goes into a girls bathroom then he is allowed (in some jurisdictions, but it is coming to everywhere in the US soon).

I don't care if you are gay, straight, trans, bi, whatever, but why can't week keep the idea of going to the bathroom in whatever one you have the parts for?
Are lesbians OK in the women's bathroom? And I'm not disagreeing with you at all, just playing devils advocate for the sake of discussion.
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Wolves of Babylon
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Jun 3, 2015 11:18am
MontyBrunswick;1732098 wrote:I still have no idea how to explain this to my children. Please, won't somebody think of the children
I agree with this. My 8 year old son saw this on tv and asked why this guy was dressed like a woman. My reply was "because he wants to" my son said ok and went back to playing on the computer.

I know he seemed to brush it off but he probably is scarred for life now.
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sleeper
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Jun 3, 2015 11:30am
Wolves of Babylon;1732103 wrote:I agree with this. My 8 year old son saw this on tv and asked why this guy was dressed like a woman. My reply was "because he wants to" my son said ok and went back to playing on the computer.

I know he seemed to brush it off but he probably is scarred for life now.
Now your son thinks its normal and will start dressing like a woman. This is what the liberals want.
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Automatik
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Jun 3, 2015 11:33am
Not much liberal influence in Uganda regarding topics like this. Maybe relocate there?
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sleeper
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Jun 3, 2015 11:37am
Automatik;1732107 wrote:Not much liberal influence in Uganda regarding topics like this. Maybe relocate there?
Not many intelligent people either, you'd fit right in!
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raiderbuck
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Jun 3, 2015 11:42am
Zoltan;1732102 wrote:Are lesbians OK in the women's bathroom? And I'm not disagreeing with you at all, just playing devils advocate for the sake of discussion.
That doesn't make any sense.
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Automatik
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Jun 3, 2015 11:49am
sleeper;1732109 wrote:Not many intelligent people either, you'd fit right in!
Just trying to help bro! I know those libtards get you worked up daily.
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Heretic
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Jun 3, 2015 11:54am
Automatik;1732114 wrote:Just trying to help bro! I know those libtards get you worked up daily.
So much so that he comes off sounding like a religious right loon now!
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jmog
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Jun 3, 2015 11:54am
Zoltan;1732102 wrote:Are lesbians OK in the women's bathroom? And I'm not disagreeing with you at all, just playing devils advocate for the sake of discussion.
Do they have the same parts? Yes
Should they go to the same bathroom then? Yes

Not really that difficult to understand my view point. Obviously single person bathrooms can/are both genders. However, public bathrooms where they are many/multiple use, those should be based on the actual physical parts of the person.
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thavoice
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Jun 3, 2015 12:00pm
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wildcats20
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Jun 3, 2015 12:00pm
jmog;1732116 wrote:Do they have the same parts? Yes
Should they go to the same bathroom then? Yes

Not really that difficult to understand my view point. Obviously single person bathrooms can/are both genders. However, public bathrooms where they are many/multiple use, those should be based on the actual physical parts of the person.
And someone born as a hermaphrodite?
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bigkahuna
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Jun 3, 2015 12:19pm
thavoice;1732117 wrote:Stewie knew this 6 years ago...
http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/06/family-guy-caitlyn-jenner/

There was also the time on Family Guy he did the USO Show.
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Zoltan
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Jun 3, 2015 12:57pm
jmog;1732116 wrote:Do they have the same parts? Yes
Should they go to the same bathroom then? Yes

Not really that difficult to understand my view point. Obviously single person bathrooms can/are both genders. However, public bathrooms where they are many/multiple use, those should be based on the actual physical parts of the person.
Then why did you write. "Oh, IDK, I could start a bulleted list that starts with many different things that they typically put people on the sexual predator lists for."

What does having the "same parts" have to do with ending up on the sexual predator list? Why would you end up on the predator list for using a restroom while having different parts?
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sleeper
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Jun 3, 2015 1:00pm
Automatik;1732114 wrote:Just trying to help bro! I know those libtards get you worked up daily.
They really don't but stupidity does. Difficult to tell the difference these days.
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jmog
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Jun 3, 2015 1:13pm
wildcats20;1732118 wrote:And someone born as a hermaphrodite?
I've thought about that a few times over the years, I honestly don't have a great answer and am still unsure. I guess whatever gender a hermaphrodite mostly identifies with would be what bathroom they would go to (as in, are they more feminine and attracted to men? go to the women's, and vice versa).
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jmog
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Jun 3, 2015 1:14pm
Zoltan;1732143 wrote:Then why did you write. "Oh, IDK, I could start a bulleted list that starts with many different things that they typically put people on the sexual predator lists for."

What does having the "same parts" have to do with ending up on the sexual predator list? Why would you end up on the predator list for using a restroom while having different parts?
As a grown man, if I walk into a women's bathroom I can be arrested for voyeurism, which would put me on the sexual predator's list. Why, if I happen to say I feel like a woman but still have all of the same parts, should it be ok for me to walk into that same women's bathroom?
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SportsAndLady
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Jun 3, 2015 1:23pm
Lol people really care about a woman being in the men's restroom with you? For fucks sake


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sleeper
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Jun 3, 2015 1:29pm
SportsAndLady;1732152 wrote:Lol people really care about a woman being in the men's restroom with you? For fucks sake


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Men don't care, but women do.
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thavoice
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Jun 3, 2015 1:32pm
SportsAndLady;1732152 wrote:Lol people really care about a woman being in the men's restroom with you? For fucks sake


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True.

Woman routinely hit the guys restroom at the local place I go to and it is no big deal other than having to wait longer, which sometimes does suck!
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Fab4Runner
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Jun 3, 2015 1:32pm
sleeper;1732156 wrote:Men don't care, but women do.
I certainly don't.
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jmog
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Jun 3, 2015 1:36pm
Fab4Runner;1732160 wrote:I certainly don't.
I think he was speaking in general.

I know if I walked in and saw a women in the men's locker room, I would do a double take as it would throw me off. But it wouldn't bother me.

I know my wife would be highly bothered if a man was in the women's bathroom.

On the same note, if I had a daughter (3 boys, so I don't) I know it would bother me if a man was in the bathroom with her (kind of would bother me if a man was in the bathroom with my wife too).
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jmog
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Jun 3, 2015 1:38pm
Forget bathrooms for a minute, what about locker rooms at the gym or locker rooms in HS gym class?

At least in a public bathroom people aren't completely naked and changing, in a locker room at the gym or HS gym they are.

There are some places that already allowing men, who identify as women, to use the women's locker room. I can tell you that a majority of women would NOT be ok with seeing a naked transgender man in their locker room.
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Zoltan
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Jun 3, 2015 1:47pm
jmog;1732147 wrote:As a grown man, if I walk into a women's bathroom I can be arrested for voyeurism, which would put me on the sexual predator's list. Why, if I happen to say I feel like a woman but still have all of the same parts, should it be ok for me to walk into that same women's bathroom?
You are slowly getting to the point. Why is it voyeurism? If a guy can get arrested for using a women's bathroom because they might like what they see, what about a women who might like what they see?

I totally understand you don't want any dude who claims they are now a girl to be in the restroom with your daughter, but then how can you be OK with girls who might be sexually attracted to her?
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Jun 3, 2015 1:48pm
jmog so bigoted.