Automatik;1698514 wrote:Soda is the fucking killer.


I axed that stuff in my late teens, thankfully.

Soda/Pop isn't the killer its portrayed in the media. A can of pop has 120 calories. Diet has none. Sedentary lifestyle and processed food has more of an impact than one can of pop a day.

Sugar bruh!

How much cals/sugar does large Coke from McD's have?

Orangeade Snapple, which I love, is full of garbage. Imagine the people drinking 2 of those A DAY with no fucks given.

justincredible;1698744 wrote: but I've decided to cut out drinking during the week to help the waistline a little bit.

Wish I had that discipline. Then again, I got fit for life in high school and college.

derek bomar;1698751 wrote:Soda/Pop isn't the killer its portrayed in the media. A can of pop has 120 calories. Diet has none. Sedentary lifestyle and processed food has more of an impact than one can of pop a day.

1 can of pop a day is not the problem.

It's the large 32 oz fountain pops 2 or 3 times a day (only liquid that is drunk during the day) that leads to problems.

And don't get me started on diet pop, you can not possibly complain about processed foods in the same breath you give a minor praise to diet pop for having zero calories. The artificial crap in diet pop is worse than the calories in regular pop.


You are definitely right about the sedentary lifestyle being the biggest problem, no doubt about it.

However, for those trying to lose weight while working out and are just watching calories, any liquid calories that are not juice/milk/etc (useful calories with vitamins, etc) are a waste. Whether it is pop, Snapple, kool aid, etc. I call them "various flavors of sugar water", they are all "killer" when it comes to quickly using up the 2000 calories/day regiment.

jmog;1698770 wrote:1 can of pop a day is not the problem.

It's the large 32 oz fountain pops 2 or 3 times a day (only liquid that is drunk during the day) that leads to problems.

And don't get me started on diet pop, you can not possibly complain about processed foods in the same breath you give a minor praise to diet pop for having zero calories. The artificial crap in diet pop is worse than the calories in regular pop.


You are definitely right about the sedentary lifestyle being the biggest problem, no doubt about it.

However, for those trying to lose weight while working out and are just watching calories, any liquid calories that are not juice/milk/etc (useful calories with vitamins, etc) are a waste. Whether it is pop, Snapple, kool aid, etc. I call them "various flavors of sugar water", they are all "killer" when it comes to quickly using up the 2000 calories/day regiment.

Avg soda consumption has dropped in the US in the last decade:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474367

Obesity rates in the US in the last decade have gone up:
http://lanekenworthy.net/obesity/

Soda takes a disproportionate share of the blame. Is it great for you? No. But getting off of your ass for more than a few minutes a day and eating better/less processed foods would do more than just cutting Pop.

and if you're drinking 2 32oz Big Gulps a day, you deserve all the fat you get.

I don't notice any disproportionate blame, nor do I just blame soda in regards to beverages. I'm going at everything loaded with sugar.


I know someone who drinks 4-6 cans of Pepsi A DAY. Think of someone who's a coffee fiend and drinks it throughout the day. That's her with Pepsi.

NYC tried to outlaw (Literally) the purchase of soda over x Size. 100s of shows on TV and thousands of articles written almost daily about Soda and the evils of it. But no one talks about candy, pizza, chips, salt intake in general, sedentary lifestyles...

Trust me when I say soda is under attack more than any other item of "bad for you" consumer goods (aside from cigs)

Yeah and the soda ban got thrown out with the quickness.

Do you work for Coke or something? lol. Plenty of those foods mentioned get shit too. Drinks get a lot of heat because they are consumed regularly with no thoughts of what to they people are actually consuming. Hell, I see toddlers who are regularly allowed to pound a 12 oz can. Again, I'm talking about sugary drinks in general.

Not Coke.

And again, I'm not here to tell you soda is good for you. It's just disproportionately railed against because it's perceived as a quick-fix to a much bigger problem.

I'm with you somewhat, but for some individuals it's still consumed at an alarming rate. Stopping that in some cases is a quick fix, cutting their sugar intake in general. There is a reason McDonald's has sugar in practically everything on their menu, it's like crack.


I can't find it right now, but I recently read an article stating that big food manufactures have figured out the right formula of sugar, salt, fat to make foods more satisfying for the brain. It could be total bullshit, but it was a good read.

Automatik;1698790 wrote:I'm with you somewhat, but for some individuals it's still consumed at an alarming rate. Stopping that in some cases is a quick fix, cutting their sugar intake in general. There is a reason McDonald's has sugar in practically everything on their menu, it's like crack.


I can't find it right now, but I recently read an article stating that big food manufactures have figured out the right formula of sugar, salt, fat to make foods more satisfying for the brain. It could be total bullshit, but it was a good read.

I'm surprised i haven't seen a "Soda is for poor people" from Sleeper.

Raw Dawgin' it;1698796 wrote:I'm surprised i haven't seen a "Soda is for poor people" from Sleeper.

This is true. Especially Mt. Dew.

I like food and I like beer. I've always been thin, but if I get fat because of it then thems the breaks.

Fab4Runner;1698799 wrote:This is true. Especially Mt. Dew.

Mt. Dew is the nectar of the gods...

I just don't drink it anymore, only on rare occasions (don't drink pop hardly ever now).

derek bomar;1698782 wrote:and if you're drinking 2 32oz Big Gulps a day, you deserve all the fat you get.

I have no idea how this is possible. On the very rare occasion I get a soda that large I feel so dehydrated after drinking it.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am), but isn't the thing that is the worst about soda/pop is that the sugars are of the type that are stored in and around your gut? Whereas, a typical calorie can be stored almost anywhere, pop sugars are stored in the gut.

Laley23;1698845 wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am), but isn't the thing that is the worst about soda/pop is that the sugars are of the type that are stored in and around your gut? Whereas, a typical calorie can be stored almost anywhere, pop sugars are stored in the gut.

Not sure if that's true - i think it's like saying you can spot train and lose fat in specific areas but not other.

Here are a few things, but again, who knows.

Soft drinks

Soft drinks, depending on the variety, contain sugar in some form, whether it be corn syrup, cane juice, or another liquid sweetener. Regardless of the form the sugar comes in, it has the same impact on your belly: It increases it! The high sugar content of soft drinks instantly raises blood sugar levels, which leads to a spike in insulin. This sends a signal to your body to begun storing excess sugar as fat in the most convenient location, right in your belly!

This article went on to give the ways in which the high sugar amounts quickly lead to the storage of fat, particularly the stomach.

Sugar can be a tricky thing to monitor when it comes to eating healthy. Of course, you could always rely on the “if it tastes sweet, it has sugar” method, but most of us would be surprised – even shocked – by how much sugar we eat each and every day. Even though it’s fat free, sugar plays a big role in storing belly fat. Fat through the midsection is more than an eyesore, it’s a health threat. Unneeded fat throughout the abdominal region places a lot of stress on all the vital organs.

the obesity epidemic is a multi faceted issue. The main players in it are:

1. Toxic food environment- portion sizes, amount of sugar, calorie dense foods, high fat foods and many other things
2. Increased social acceptability of obese people.
3. decreases in physical activity- no exercise, less labor intensive jobs
4. lack of education
5. Many other social issues like divorce rates, multi income households......

Just walk in a grocery store and compare the prices of the outside aisles vs the middle aisles. That will answer your question on why America is fat.

Automatik;1698783 wrote:I don't notice any disproportionate blame, nor do I just blame soda in regards to beverages. I'm going at everything loaded with sugar.


I know someone who drinks 4-6 cans of Pepsi A DAY. Think of someone who's a coffee fiend and drinks it throughout the day. That's her with Pepsi.

I knew a guy who would drink about a 6 pack of mountain dew a day. would even bring a 2 liter to work outs. he weighed about 140-150lbs. and he wasn't young, mid to late 30s.

and yes he was poor with like 5 kids or something.

Glory Days;1698933 wrote:I knew a guy who would drink about a 6 pack of mountain dew a day. would even bring a 2 liter to work outs. he weighed about 140-150lbs. and he wasn't young, mid to late 30s.

and yes he was poor with like 5 kids or something.

I once knew a guy from nantuckit