Belly35;1695356 wrote:I got mine, screw you

other side said…

You fucker, I’m entitled

isadore;1695359 wrote:yours is just a continuing attempt to undermine public education.

isadore;1695361 wrote:for public education to be "public" it must be open for all and paid for by tax revenue of the citizenry.

Con_Alma;1695362 wrote:Lol....Why would I do that. Me and my wife are products of it and in addition, doing do would impact my children and maybe some day grandchildren.

Can you help me better understand the rational behind asking middle class taxpayers to pay for those who are willing and able to do so on their own?

Con_Alma;1695363 wrote:That might be your definition but public education doesn't have to be paid for in full for all to still be public education.

isadore;1695366 wrote:why should middle class folks pay for rich kids to go to elementary and secondary school? Public education is funded by tax dollars of the citizenry to provide that service to all. Post secondary education should be part of public education.

isadore;1695367 wrote:and a major problem in state education today is the fact that tax contribution to state schools is diminishing so tuitions rises.

Con_Alma;1695369 wrote:What? The State of Ohio contributed more total dollars to education last year than ever before.

isadore;1695331 wrote:you got yours, screw the rest. Post secondary education should be a basic right. Of course it is hardly a surprise, you would oppose granting them that right. In the past you would have denied every extension of education to the oppressed and disadvantaged.

Con_Alma;1695368 wrote:That's a good question. I think the answer is because it a basic level of education. I don't think college level services are deemed by society to be a basic level of services.

Didn't we speak of this already when you brought up the police and private security services?

gut;1695372 wrote:I paid for mine, and you should pay for yours. So where's my free 2 years of tuition - I want reparations!!! Perhaps after you've made me whole I will then be able to afford to contribute toward your degree.

Or you only tax people currently 20 and going forward such that the program is ultimately funded by people receiving the benefits (sort of like social security).

isadore;1695370 wrote:Merriam Webster- public school
“a free tax-supported school controlled by a local governmental authority “

Belly35;1695374 wrote:Many be only property owners and those with a morgage should vote for public school issue... along with those who can provide proof of employment....

isadore;1695373 wrote:and folks like you once said that about primary education, secondary education, police and fire protection.

isadore;1695379 wrote:anything to limit suffrage in America to an elite and deprive those without resources of basic rights.

Con_Alma;1695376 wrote:Our primary education system doesn't even fit that definition. My kids had to pay "fees". Lets fix that first.

Here's another definition. seems there's some debate with regards to what it exactly is!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/public+schoolpublic school

n.1. An elementary or secondary school in the United States supported by public funds and providing free education for children of a community or district.

Notice is states elementary or secondary.

isadore;1695375 wrote:tsk, tsk, tsk, screw those in need. Hardly surprise from those that have.

Con_Alma;1695383 wrote:Where is it stated as a basic right to receive "free" collegiate level services?

gut;1695385 wrote:nope...people receiving the benefit should fund that benefit. That is the essence of social insurance.

You can't whine about being screwed when you're seeking to stick people who already paid their own way with the bill.

isadore;1695388 wrote:Post secondary education has become a right

gut;1695390 wrote:only according to the entitled generation. And how does a "right" to a post-secondary education not already exist? Who is prevented from attending college other than, as mentioned, the stupid?

isadore;1695391 wrote:millions