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Dec 31, 2014 11:16 AM
salto;1690826 wrote:Sounds like the safest place to be is not in church.
How many people get killed in a church?
Dec 31, 2014 11:16am
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Dec 31, 2014 1:09 PM
queencitybuckeye;1690890 wrote:Opposite eye dominant - unusual.
Indeed
Dec 31, 2014 1:09pm
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Dec 31, 2014 4:49 PM
^^^^ The Blessed Three in One!
Dec 31, 2014 4:49pm
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Dec 31, 2014 5:04 PM
salto;1690826 wrote:Sounds like the safest place to be is not in church.
Especially if you're a boy between the ages of 6-13
Dec 31, 2014 5:04pm
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Jan 7, 2015 12:38 PM
gut;1690829 wrote:
that does not look like allah to me
Jan 7, 2015 12:38pm
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Jan 7, 2015 3:29 PM
steubbigred;1693753 wrote:that does not look like allah to me
It has to be who else would have two right hands....
Jan 7, 2015 3:29pm
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Jan 7, 2015 3:41 PM
Nice one, Belly. The left is "sinister".
Jan 7, 2015 3:41pm
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Jan 7, 2015 3:49 PM
Serious question: Why are people who go to church afraid of death? If they die, don't they all go to heaven to be with their god anyway? If they die, isn't it just a part of god's plan?
Jan 7, 2015 3:49pm
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Jan 7, 2015 4:32 PM
sleeper;1693845 wrote:Serious question: Why are people who go to church afraid of death? If they die, don't they all go to heaven to be with their god anyway? If they die, isn't it just a part of god's plan?
Who says that people who go to church are afraid to die? Protecting your congregation from the crazies of the world does not indicate that people of that church are fearful of death. I go to church...certainly not afraid to die!
Jan 7, 2015 4:32pm
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Jan 7, 2015 4:34 PM
Old Rider;1693860 wrote:Who says that people who go to church are afraid to die? Protecting your congregation from the crazies of the world does not indicate that people of that church are fearful of death. I go to church...certainly not afraid to die!
Why do they need protection? If the crazies come, its part of god's plan that the deceased go to heaven now. Who are you to disrupt god's plan?
Jan 7, 2015 4:34pm
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Jan 7, 2015 4:53 PM
^^^^????Maybe if the crazies come, it is God's plan for Belly to empty his Sig into their terrorist ass.
Jan 7, 2015 4:53pm
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Jan 7, 2015 5:17 PM
It took nine days for Sleeper to show up on a religion thread? Must be too busy slaying vagina after-all.
Jan 7, 2015 5:17pm
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Jan 7, 2015 6:30 PM
friendfromlowry;1693872 wrote:It took nine days for Sleeper to show up on a religion thread? Must be too busy slaying vagina after-all.
And hob knobbing with all american college football buddies/players at Ohio State.
Jan 7, 2015 6:30pm
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Jan 7, 2015 7:32 PM
Belly35;1693833 wrote:It has to be who else would have two right hands....
ahhh i see now
Jan 7, 2015 7:32pm
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Jan 8, 2015 11:25 AM
sleeper;1693862 wrote:Why do they need protection? If the crazies come, its part of god's plan that the deceased go to heaven now. Who are you to disrupt god's plan?


Self-defense "protecting oneself from injury at the hand of others." Self-defense is not about taking vengeance, is not about punishing criminals. Self-defense involves preserving one's own health and life when it is threatened by the actions of others. Using weapons to protect ourselves and others, even if the weapons used could kill the attacker.
As a Christian I have a Biblical obligation to preserve life. The Bible teaches that Christians must preserve life--our own lives and the lives of other people.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (simply) we are to take care of our body
Psalm 82:4 Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. (simply) Christians obligation to protect those who are in danger:
Proverbs 24:11 (simply) Christians have a duty to preserve the lives of those who are harming themselves:
Ezekiel 33 (simply) As a Christian I fail to guard the lives of others, protect them or warning them of danger I’m wrong
Ezekiel 33 "... 6 'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.'
Deuteronomy 22:8 and Exodus 21:29-31 (simply) Christian must protect their life and the lives of others.
As a Christian I’m obligation to protect my life and the lives of other is very clear. In the Bible it is also clear that Christians should possess weapons to protect themselves, guard against those who will wrongfully kill Gensis 9:5-9
Go ahead and use the Ten Commandments.
Exodus 20:13 You shall not kill. (simply) murder
This Commandment is better qualified in Leviticus 24:16-17 Exodus 21:12-15, Numbers 35:6-34, and Deuteronomy 19:1-13, Exodus 22:2-3, Esther 8-9 as meaning … murder
No where in the Bible are Believer to surrender to violence, killing or religions murder


The only plan I have is to be a Beliver in Christ, work hard to be a better Christian, read the Bible, provide for my family, prosper and pray. Its not for me to question God. Those of us who are Christians knows the Plan and the end.

Hope this helps
Jan 8, 2015 11:25am
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Jan 8, 2015 11:52 AM
HitsRus;1693867 wrote:^^^^????Maybe if the crazies come, it is God's plan for Belly to empty his Sig into their terrorist ass.
Check God's commandments. Thou shall not murder. Also your definition of crazies is rather loose considering anyone that attends church is probably crazy(or stupid).
Jan 8, 2015 11:52am
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Jan 8, 2015 11:52 AM
Belly35;1694040 wrote:Self-defense "protecting oneself from injury at the hand of others." Self-defense is not about taking vengeance, is not about punishing criminals. Self-defense involves preserving one's own health and life when it is threatened by the actions of others. Using weapons to protect ourselves and others, even if the weapons used could kill the attacker.
As a Christian I have a Biblical obligation to preserve life. The Bible teaches that Christians must preserve life--our own lives and the lives of other people.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (simply) we are to take care of our body
Psalm 82:4 Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. (simply) Christians obligation to protect those who are in danger:
Proverbs 24:11 (simply) Christians have a duty to preserve the lives of those who are harming themselves:
Ezekiel 33 (simply) As a Christian I fail to guard the lives of others, protect them or warning them of danger I’m wrong
Ezekiel 33 "... 6 'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.'
Deuteronomy 22:8 and Exodus 21:29-31 (simply) Christian must protect their life and the lives of others.
As a Christian I’m obligation to protect my life and the lives of other is very clear. In the Bible it is also clear that Christians should possess weapons to protect themselves, guard against those who will wrongfully kill Gensis 9:5-9
Go ahead and use the Ten Commandments.
Exodus 20:13 You shall not kill. (simply) murder
This Commandment is better qualified in Leviticus 24:16-17 Exodus 21:12-15, Numbers 35:6-34, and Deuteronomy 19:1-13, Exodus 22:2-3, Esther 8-9 as meaning … murder
No where in the Bible are Believer to surrender to violence, killing or religions murder


The only plan I have is to be a Beliver in Christ, work hard to be a better Christian, read the Bible, provide for my family, prosper and pray. Its not for me to question God. Those of us who are Christians knows the Plan and the end.

Hope this helps
I didn't read this, but who are you to interrupt god's plan? If god wants you dead, he will find a way to make you dead. Now why an all powerful god has to send dirty muslims to do his dirty work is beyond me.
Jan 8, 2015 11:52am
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Jan 8, 2015 1:08 PM
sleeper;1694056 wrote:Check God's commandments. Thou shall not murder. Also your definition of crazies is rather loose considering anyone that attends church is probably crazy(or stupid).
I know of no definition of murder that includes self defense.
As far as crazies go, I was going on the assumption that the crazies you were referring to were/are violent...there would be no need to have to kill non violent crazies, religious or not.
Jan 8, 2015 1:08pm
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Jan 8, 2015 1:10 PM
Sleeper = Atheist....to each their own I guess!
Jan 8, 2015 1:10pm
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Jan 8, 2015 2:21 PM
Old Rider;1694094 wrote:Sleeper = intelligent....to each their own I guess!
Fixed.
Jan 8, 2015 2:21pm
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Jan 8, 2015 2:51 PM
Old Rider;1694094 wrote:Sleeper = Intelligent....to each their own I guess!
sleeper;1694145 wrote:Fixed.
Time will tell
Jan 8, 2015 2:51pm
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Jan 8, 2015 3:40 PM
sleeper;1694145 wrote:Yes...I am an Atheist.
Fixed
Jan 8, 2015 3:40pm
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Jun 18, 2015 8:11 AM
sleeper;1694145 wrote:My father should have been Fixed.
...agree 100%
Jun 18, 2015 8:11am