Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 27, 2014 1:48pm
Hope the Ravens don't crap into the playoffs
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Sonofanump
Dec 27, 2014 1:50pm
link? don't see it anywhere.Pick6;1689654 wrote:Joshy the fuck up suspended. In other news, water is wet
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 27, 2014 1:55pm
All over twitter. He skipped walk thru practice. What a dumb fuck. He needs to grow the fuck up.Sonofanump;1689656 wrote:link? don't see it anywhere.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 27, 2014 1:59pm
He's going to sign some big ass contract in a while with another team and I hate that players can be so irresponsible and then collect $$$$ like few others....and if he never matures he'll piss it all away.like_that;1689657 wrote:All over twitter. He skipped walk thru practice. What a dumb fuck. He needs to grow the fuck up.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 27, 2014 2:12pm
Well, this season couldn't have ended any worse.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 27, 2014 2:21pm
Maybe we should just be fair weather fans. It seems to work for every other fan base.SportsAndLady;1689660 wrote:Well, this season couldn't have ended any worse.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 27, 2014 2:26pm
I'd be surprised if he gets a big contract from anyone. He's obviously not grown up, and is one test from missing an entire season.Ironman92;1689658 wrote:He's going to sign some big ass contract in a while with another team and I hate that players can be so irresponsible and then collect $$$$ like few others....and if he never matures he'll piss it all away.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 27, 2014 2:30pm
Good friend of mine in Chicago is an artsy guy...doesn't really follow sports too closely but is somewhat a sports fan.like_that;1689664 wrote:Maybe we should just be fair weather fans. It seems to work for every other fan base.
He doesn't have teams other then he loves the Dayton flyers bball since he went there.
About two years ago, he was looking for an NFL team to follow since we all have our teams and go to bars and watch them. He decided, after thinking heavily of the most random team he can start to root for (zero connections to the team) and came up with the Seahawks.
First season as a Seahawks fan, and they win the super bowl.
As a Browns fan, it couldn't have pissed me off any more. Been a Browns fan my whole life and I've seen one God damn playoff game. He chooses a team (back when they weren't a top team like they are now, so it's not like he chose the NE patriots) and within 8 months has a super bowl.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 27, 2014 2:36pm
I'm leaning towards the opinion that they should trade him as soon as they can and get what they can out of him while he is still on a friendly contract. More likely than not, he will either A) end up gone from the league for good, B) not re-sign and go to another team or C) the Browns just end up cutting him outright then he signs with the Pats and wins a super bowl with them.
He's a great talent, but at some point you have to quit while you're ahead or you'll walk away empty handed. Hard to change the culture of an organization with players of his character.
He's a great talent, but at some point you have to quit while you're ahead or you'll walk away empty handed. Hard to change the culture of an organization with players of his character.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 27, 2014 2:41pm
Artsy lolSportsAndLady;1689666 wrote:Good friend of mine in Chicago is an artsy guy...doesn't really follow sports too closely but is somewhat a sports fan.
He doesn't have teams other then he loves the Dayton flyers bball since he went there.
About two years ago, he was looking for an NFL team to follow since we all have our teams and go to bars and watch them. He decided, after thinking heavily of the most random team he can start to root for (zero connections to the team) and came up with the Seahawks.
First season as a Seahawks fan, and they win the super bowl.
As a Browns fan, it couldn't have pissed me off any more. Been a Browns fan my whole life and I've seen one God damn playoff game. He chooses a team (back when they weren't a top team like they are now, so it's not like he chose the NE patriots) and within 8 months has a super bowl.
Funny story
I do want cleveland to win a championship just to see what all goes o afterwards (hopefully the Cavs of not I wouldn't mind the Indians as long as they weren't playing the Reds)....also, regardless of their fans...I still want the Cubs to win a World Series (will happen in the next decade)
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Sonofanump
Dec 27, 2014 2:51pm
Really, really dumb. He does not get free agency credit for this year. Brilliant.like_that;1689657 wrote:All over twitter. He skipped walk thru practice. What a dumb fuck. He needs to grow the fuck up.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 27, 2014 2:52pm
I'm sure that SB title meant as much to him as one playoff appearance would mean to us. /sarcasmSportsAndLady;1689666 wrote:Good friend of mine in Chicago is an artsy guy...doesn't really follow sports too closely but is somewhat a sports fan.
He doesn't have teams other then he loves the Dayton flyers bball since he went there.
About two years ago, he was looking for an NFL team to follow since we all have our teams and go to bars and watch them. He decided, after thinking heavily of the most random team he can start to root for (zero connections to the team) and came up with the Seahawks.
First season as a Seahawks fan, and they win the super bowl.
As a Browns fan, it couldn't have pissed me off any more. Been a Browns fan my whole life and I've seen one God damn playoff game. He chooses a team (back when they weren't a top team like they are now, so it's not like he chose the NE patriots) and within 8 months has a super bowl.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 27, 2014 2:52pm
Wait, really? The team suspended him, not the NFL.Sonofanump;1689676 wrote:Really, really dumb. He does not get free agency credit for this year. Brilliant.
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Sonofanump
Dec 27, 2014 2:54pm
I might be wrong, but don't you need to play in 6 games?like_that;1689681 wrote:Wait, really? The team suspended him, not the NFL.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 27, 2014 2:55pm
Seeing on Twitter it depends if they decide to suspend with or without pay. Without pay- they get the extra year.like_that;1689681 wrote:Wait, really? The team suspended him, not the NFL.
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Sonofanump
Dec 27, 2014 2:55pm
I now see it messes with him being unrestricted versus restricted.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 27, 2014 2:57pm
Wow that's hard to believe. They could have fucked him over easily then. That gives teams a lot of power. I assume the NFL has some type of language that would constitute a legitimate no-pay suspension. If so, I would suspend him without pay easily. Fuck him. Get the extra year and make his contract worth much more for either the team or in a deal.Pick6;1689683 wrote:Seeing on Twitter it depends if they decide to suspend with or without pay. Without pay- they get the extra year.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 27, 2014 2:58pm
In other news, Jim Leonard is set to retire after tomorrow. Hire that guy on the staff.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 27, 2014 3:14pm
I read that O'Neill has tried to talk him out of it all year. Unfortunately, it don't look like he was successful.like_that;1689688 wrote:In other news, Jim Leonard is set to retire after tomorrow. Hire that guy on the staff.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 27, 2014 4:07pm
Someone who arbitrarily "picks a team to follow" is not a fan...however, I'd sure like him to pick a team for me to put some money on before the season starts.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 27, 2014 4:39pm
Manziel was fined for being late for treatment, he really seems to be taking it more seriously.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Dec 27, 2014 4:46pm
se-alum;1689723 wrote:Manziel was fined for being late for treatment, he really seems to be taking it more seriously.
Right. Johnny has it all finally figired put. ,He and Gordon should be terminated by the Browns ASAP.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Dec 27, 2014 7:23pm
I agree.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1689728 wrote:Johnny has it all finally figired put.
It just doesn't matter anymore.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Dec 27, 2014 9:09pm
Was having this conversation with a buddy tonight. I'd trade them both for a 3rd round pick. The portion of Bernie's rant that I agreed with is that culture needs to change. I believe Pettine has begun the process, but "ME" guys need to go. This includes Gordon, Manziel, and did include Tate who they already let go weeks ago.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1689728 wrote:Right. Johnny has it all finally figired put. ,He and Gordon should be terminated by the Browns ASAP.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 27, 2014 9:30pm
Jesus. Just fucking stopDr. KnOiTaLL;1689764 wrote:Was having this conversation with a buddy tonight. I'd trade them both for a 3rd round pick. The portion of Bernie's rant that I agreed with is that culture needs to change. I believe Pettine has begun the process, but "ME" guys need to go. This includes Gordon, Manziel, and did include Tate who they already let go weeks ago.