Browns End of 2014 Season Thread (Iggy-free)

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Dec 21, 2014 8:26pm
like_that;1688428 wrote:CBS should also get the assist with their reverse jinx stat before that play.
They have about 50 ready for every game....their stat guys are the best
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Dec 21, 2014 8:35pm
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Dec 22, 2014 12:26am
SportsAndLady;1688546 wrote:Didn't really like manziel's comments after the game today. Basically saying he had never felt the way his knee was feeling so he decided to stay out of the game to get it checked out later.

If I was a rookie, I would be playing no matter what, unless my leg fell off or doctors said I can't go in. But I guess that's just me.
Agreed. If the medical staff was telling me it's fine, then I'm out there. He waited this long to get his chance, and the opportunities to prove himself going into the offseason are dwindling. Will he even start next Sunday now?

Also, on a semi-related note, I can't remember the last time the OC/JJhuddle had this much full retard going on. FW, Iggy, and Tiernan have all went off the deep end the past 7-8 days. Kudos to whomever threadbanned Iggy. I'm not even a Browns fan and agree that guy sucks.
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Dec 22, 2014 8:15am
Posted this in the other thread but how would everyone feel about cutter? I feel like he could be very successful here
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Dec 22, 2014 8:25am
Crimson streak;1688624 wrote:Posted this in the other thread but how would everyone feel about cutter? I feel like he could be very successful here
He'd be a whole lot better than what we've had...but three things:

That contract...
Alshon Jeffrey, Brandon marshall, Bennett, and forte make him look a lot better than what he really he is
Cleveland would be better but he'll never win a championship so what's the point?
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Dec 22, 2014 10:25am
No thanks on cutler and his shitty contract.
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Dec 22, 2014 10:31am
like_that;1688658 wrote:No thanks on cutler and his shitty contract.
This.
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Dec 22, 2014 11:20am
Cutler is not a guy to lead a team at all. He'd piss everyone off in less than a month
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Dec 22, 2014 11:54am
For some reason I just feel this might wake up cutler. How much guaranteed money is owed on his contract?
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Dec 22, 2014 11:58am
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Dec 22, 2014 12:00pm
Also lol at iggys thread. Pure entertainment right there
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Dec 22, 2014 4:02pm
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Thoughts? I dont want anything to do with Fowler Jr. in the 1st. NO
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Dec 22, 2014 4:12pm
Commander of Awesome;1688751 wrote:http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Thoughts? I dont want anything to do with Fowler Jr. in the 1st. NO
Connor Cook has already said he is coming back, so it's hard to put much into a mock that has him in it. I think the biggest need is obviously the front 7, but it's hard to evaluate because of all the injuries the DL had. I like Shilique Calhoun if he's available.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:13pm
Also, sounds like Connor Shaw may get the start this week.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:15pm
LOL.

Time for Connor Football
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Dec 22, 2014 4:15pm
I'm on record, I hate taking a WR in the 1st. I'd take Shaq and the best DT left on the board.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:16pm
If Shaw comes in and lights it up, I think Iqqy/buttwedge will be on suicide watch.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:16pm
Way too many variables for me yet to take a prediction on specific guys, but I agree with COA, Front 7 all the way, unless a top OT slips.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:18pm
Commander of Awesome;1688759 wrote:I'm on record, I hate taking a WR in the 1st. I'd take Shaq and the best DT left on the board.
I tend to agree with you on the WR aspect, unless its super early, WR's are a big gamble in the draft. More often, than not they tend to bust. Whether that has to do with coaching, QB around them, or talent I'm not sure.

This past year was definitely an outlier on WR talent throughout the 1st round.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:20pm
I think like_that called them the ferraris of the NFL and I agree. Look at teams with top WR talent, they don't win consistently. Pretty sure Farmer agrees as he didn't draft one at all in the past draft. Need to control the LOS. That's priority #1 in the NFL to me.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:43pm
Commander of Awesome;1688763 wrote:I think like_that called them the ferraris of the NFL and I agree. Look at teams with top WR talent, they don't win consistently. Pretty sure Farmer agrees as he didn't draft one at all in the past draft. Need to control the LOS. That's priority #1 in the NFL to me.
I agree. Honestly Id rather us go out and sign cecil shorts instead of drafting a receiver
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Dec 22, 2014 4:46pm
For whatever its worth... 11 of the top 12 players in receiving yards are on teams either in the playoffs (PIT, GB, DEN, IND, DET, DEN, DAL, GB, NE) or playing for a spot week 17 (ATL and HOU).

Atlanta shouldn't really count, but on the other hand the only player in the top 12 without a playoff shot is Jeremy Maclin of 9-6 Philly.

It never hurts to have offensive weapons.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:49pm
Mulva;1688772 wrote:For whatever its worth... 11 of the top 12 players in receiving yards are on teams either in the playoffs (PIT, GB, DEN, IND, DET, DEN, DAL, GB, NE) or playing for a spot week 17 (ATL and HOU).

Atlanta shouldn't really count, but on the other hand the only player in the top 12 without a playoff shot is Jeremy Maclin of 9-6 Philly.

It never hurts to have offensive weapons.
To be fair, they also have probably the top 11 QB's in the NFL on their Rosters (Minus Houston), I think that plays the biggest part in it as well. But usually Top QB's turn mediocre WR's better than they are. So who the hell knows.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:50pm
Commander of Awesome;1688763 wrote:I think like_that called them the ferraris of the NFL and I agree. Look at teams with top WR talent, they don't win consistently. Pretty sure Farmer agrees as he didn't draft one at all in the past draft. Need to control the LOS. That's priority #1 in the NFL to me.
Teams should always be built from the inside out. It's always hard for teams to pass on those flashy players, but if you can't win at the LOS, those players mean nothing. Teams like the Falcons and Bears are perfect examples. They have some great skilled players, but their lines are terrible.
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Dec 22, 2014 4:53pm
se-alum;1688774 wrote:Teams should always be built from the inside out. It's always hard for teams to pass on those flashy players, but if you can't win at the LOS, those players mean nothing. Teams like the Falcons and Bears are perfect examples. They have some great skilled players, but their lines are terrible.
Yup, least Farmer seems to get this. See the media QQing last draft. Wish we had taken a dline instead of Gilbert, but that's hindsight I suppose. We need legit depth on the Oline (Esp at Center as its a very real possibility Mack opts out after next season and there's nothing we can do to keep him), dline, and Lber. I would put WR at like #5 or 6 of needs.