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Dec 18, 2014 3:20 PM
steubbigred;1687462 wrote:you're a traitor.

listen to the radio and they all have the same opinion as i do...so do most of the news networks..
Well, that settles it. As long as the radio and news networks have the same opinion...
Dec 18, 2014 3:20pm
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Dec 18, 2014 3:40 PM
Wolves of Babylon;1687515 wrote:I don't disagree with tort reform and I get they want to avoid potential chance of terrorism. Still a cowards move though. At least put it online or through Netflix.
It doesn't really change the liability issue.
Dec 18, 2014 3:40pm
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Dec 18, 2014 3:59 PM
If this were Avengers 2 and The Hulk ripped Kim Jongs head off, I doubt it would be pulled. Sony isn't worried about liability. They want to save face for all the leaks that occurred and feel this will make them look like good guys.

Claiming Liability even if true doesn't prevent Sony from showing cowardice.
Dec 18, 2014 3:59pm
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Dec 18, 2014 4:02 PM
Wolves of Babylon;1687526 wrote:If this were Avengers 2 and The Hulk ripped Kim Jongs head off, I doubt it would be pulled. Sony isn't worried about liability. They want to save face for all the leaks that occurred and feel this will make them look like good guys.

Claiming Liability even if true doesn't prevent Sony from showing cowardice.
Did the Avengers 2 and the Hulk have threats on the release of the movie? This isn't worth debating; I don't argue with morons except religious morons because I pity them.
Dec 18, 2014 4:02pm
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Dec 18, 2014 4:19 PM
sleeper;1687527 wrote:Did the Avengers 2 and the Hulk have threats on the release of the movie? This isn't worth debating; I don't argue with morons except religious morons because I pity them.
I accept your concession. You obviously fold as easily as Sony.
Dec 18, 2014 4:19pm
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Dec 18, 2014 5:18 PM
folds like spinks did against tyson
Dec 18, 2014 5:18pm
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Dec 18, 2014 6:21 PM
I'm guessing this gets released on DVD in about a month after all the bullshit dies down.

I'd be shocked if they never release it.
Dec 18, 2014 6:21pm
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Dec 18, 2014 6:22 PM
steubbigred;1687429 wrote:salmon rushdie was threatened by iran for writing the book ...... satanic versus....... all the publishing houses stuck together and did not budge... they told iran you will not tell us what we can or cannot sell in our bookstores .. iran lost that battle because the right of the people stood up together and yelled back at those tyrants....
He also frequented the sauna with Cosmo Kramer
Dec 18, 2014 6:22pm
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steubbigred

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Dec 18, 2014 6:42 PM
surrender and capitulate are not in our creed
Dec 18, 2014 6:42pm
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Dec 18, 2014 6:45 PM
Classyposter58;1687561 wrote:He also frequented the sauna with Cosmo Kramer
Also....

Born on Monday,
Christened on Tuesday,
Married on Wednesday,
Took ill on Thursday,
Worse on Friday,
Died on Saturday,
Buried on Sunday:
This is the end
Of Salman Rushdie.
Dec 18, 2014 6:45pm
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Dec 18, 2014 7:06 PM
steubbigred;1687567 wrote:surrender and capitulate are not in our creed
Rape, inbreeding, and white trash is in the Steubenville one
Dec 18, 2014 7:06pm
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Dec 18, 2014 7:35 PM
ts1227;1687580 wrote:Rape, inbreeding, and white trash is in the Steubenville one
all of that is something your family would know about you scumbag
Dec 18, 2014 7:35pm
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Dec 18, 2014 8:03 PM
LOL I have to continue to laugh at people who think that this is about "America"..."1st Amendment"...."surrender and capitulation"...."censorship"..."cowardice"...etc etc.

All the machismo and testosterone! All the righteous indignation!

This is about, and only about, Sony making a business decision to pull a MOVIE ( a comedic thriller) in the wake of violent threats. It is not "cowardice" on Sony's part...they have no obligation to be macho. They have no obligation to release this movie at all to prove a point or to stand up to terrorism. It's their money...and the only obligation they have is to their shareholders. The United States government, and the Constitution of the United States has absolutely NOTHING to do with Sony's decision.
This really is more about the internal decisions at Sony, that allowed this movie to be made, using real names and real countries and the failure to anticipate the reaction especially in this day and age.... and not being prepared to go forward in the face of the threats.

When you taunt the crazy man down the street, you had better be prepared for a reaction that is not rational by your standards, and it should have been pretty clear that when it comes to the Norks you are not going to get responses/reactions that reflect American values.
Dec 18, 2014 8:03pm
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Dec 18, 2014 8:14 PM
We are still at war with N Korea. We are in a cease fire. A peace agreement has never been made.
Dec 18, 2014 8:14pm
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Dec 18, 2014 8:17 PM
^^^^and that's relevant how?
Dec 18, 2014 8:17pm
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Dec 18, 2014 9:37 PM
HitsRus;1687595 wrote:^^^^and that's relevant how?
..........
Dec 18, 2014 9:37pm
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Dec 18, 2014 9:38 PM
HitsRus;1687591 wrote:LOL I have to continue to laugh at people who think that this is about "America"..."1st Amendment"...."surrender and capitulation"...."censorship"..."cowardice"...etc etc.

All the machismo and testosterone! All the righteous indignation!

This is about, and only about, Sony making a business decision to pull a MOVIE ( a comedic thriller) in the wake of violent threats. It is not "cowardice" on Sony's part...they have no obligation to be macho. They have no obligation to release this movie at all to prove a point or to stand up to terrorism. It's their money...and the only obligation they have is to their shareholders. The United States government, and the Constitution of the United States has absolutely NOTHING to do with Sony's decision.
This really is more about the internal decisions at Sony, that allowed this movie to be made, using real names and real countries and the failure to anticipate the reaction especially in this day and age.... and not being prepared to go forward in the face of the threats.

When you taunt the crazy man down the street, you had better be prepared for a reaction that is not rational by your standards, and it should have been pretty clear that when it comes to the Norks you are not going to get responses/reactions that reflect American values.
you are part of the problem now go run and hide and let the men do your fighting for you
Dec 18, 2014 9:38pm
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Dec 18, 2014 10:07 PM
it is now open season for everybody to be threatened in this fashion.

free speech has been attacked by wicked people.

our founding fathers came to this land because of the oppression they endured at the hands of king george.

freedom of speech is the most basic and important right free thinking people have on this planet and it is something so many of our brave service men have fought and died for ...

if you are a veteran and did a tour in iraq or afghanastan as i have done then you know this is no joking manner .

sony and those actors capitulated and soon this will happen again . probably against a news organization or reporters with a large audience.
Dec 18, 2014 10:07pm
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Dec 18, 2014 10:34 PM
i am banning everything Sony
Dec 18, 2014 10:34pm
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Dec 18, 2014 11:18 PM
^^^yeah...attack the victim. Good strategy.
Dec 18, 2014 11:18pm
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Dec 18, 2014 11:37 PM
steubbigred;1687627 wrote:it is now open season for everybody to be threatened in this fashion.

free speech has been attacked by wicked people.

our founding fathers came to this land because of the oppression they endured at the hands of king george.

freedom of speech is the most basic and important right free thinking people have on this planet and it is something so many of our brave service men have fought and died for ...

if you are a veteran and did a tour in iraq or afghanastan as i have done then you know this is no joking manner .

sony and those actors capitulated and soon this will happen again . probably against a news organization or reporters with a large audience.
Do us a favor and learn exactly what the First Amendment actually means. Damn.
Dec 18, 2014 11:37pm
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Dec 18, 2014 11:49 PM
GoChiefs;1687641 wrote:Do us a favor and learn exactly what the First Amendment actually means. Damn.
Reps.

One of my biggest pet peeves is people throwing around the first amendment, like it gives you blanket immunity to say whatever the fuck you want without consequence.
Dec 18, 2014 11:49pm
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Dec 19, 2014 2:16 AM
I follow my local news station on Facebook and they put out a headline about this a few hours ago, and every dumbass hick from southwest Ohio started the "Where's our president", "Freedom of speech infringement!", "We turned into pussies!" comments.
Kinda interesting that Rogen hasn't tweeted since this all started a few days ago. Apparently he's going to be the big loser in all of this. No one supported the movie more than him and Sony actually modified the assassination scene to be a bit more mild which pissed him off.
Heretic;1687449 wrote:It's good to know that, thanks to Steuby, the Spirit of Footwedge (being all up in arms, while being factually incorrect to an amazing degree) will never die!
Our luck sucks. Lose one dumbass, another one just becomes more prevalent.
HitsRus;1687467 wrote:I wonder who was the dumbass that approved going ahead and making this movie anyway. Didn't his mom ever teach him not to taunt thecrazy man down the street?
When I first saw the previews, I wondered what kind of backlash it'd receive. I'm more surprised it took this long for shit to hit the fan.
Wolves of Babylon;1687515 wrote:I don't disagree with tort reform and I get they want to avoid potential chance of terrorism. Still a cowards move though. At least put it online or through Netflix.
Maybe it will. But I doubt anyone wants to have their hands tied to this movie at the moment.
Dec 19, 2014 2:16am
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Dec 19, 2014 2:18 AM
Wolves of Babylon;1687515 wrote:I don't disagree with tort reform and I get they want to avoid potential chance of terrorism. Still a cowards move though. At least put it online or through Netflix.
Further more...
Satellite operators, cable providers, or digital portals that might be asked to pick up “The Interview” could be exposed to the same online harassment plaguing Sony.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/19/business/media/sony-attack-is-unraveling-relationships-in-hollywood.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
Dec 19, 2014 2:18am
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Dec 19, 2014 6:22 AM
HighRoller74;1687642 wrote:Reps.

One of my biggest pet peeves is people throwing around the first amendment, like it gives you blanket immunity to say whatever the fuck you want without consequence.
i know what it means...i know what it was to see iraqi women beaten and tortured for the slightest of things .

you and that other clown live under the blanket of protection that people like me have sacrificed my very existence for.

what this was was an attack on freedom of expression with intimidation and scare tactics .

we are a sovereign nation with our own laws . we are not supposed to be under the thumb of a tiny countries ruthless regime.

laws were broken against an american corporation, and against american citizens ....laws .... do you understand that.......those people infringed on our basic human rights ... do you understand that ........... i think you do not comprehend very well ...


your very welcome from this service man for protecting your right to disagree with me no matter how wrong you are ......................... i wont break any laws against you for your expressions and rights .......when that happens that is unethical and unlawful...
Dec 19, 2014 6:22am