AP Sources: US, Cuba Seek to Normalize Relations

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Dec 17, 2014 11:07 AM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7f7f6bba9d934897a07b09039fd25e38/ap-source-cuba-releases-us-prisoner-alan-gross
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States and Cuba will start talks on normalizing full diplomatic relations, marking the most significant shift in U.S. policy toward the communist island in decades, American officials said Wednesday. The announcement comes amid a series of new confidence-building measures between the longtime foes, including the release of American Alan Gross and the freeing of three Cubans jailed in the U.S.
Dec 17, 2014 11:07am
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Dec 17, 2014 11:55 AM
Sound like more immigration prospect for Obama and the Democrat voting base
Dec 17, 2014 11:55am
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Dec 17, 2014 12:19 PM
Belly35;1687013 wrote:Sound like more immigration prospect for Obama and the Democrat voting base
Sounds more like rum and cigars!!!

and Cuban women!!!
Dec 17, 2014 12:19pm
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Dec 17, 2014 12:25 PM
The minute that baby changes...take every penny you have and invest it in Cuban real estate. Cuba will easily become The Go to Place in the Carribean once normalized travel is ever established there again.
Dec 17, 2014 12:25pm
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Dec 17, 2014 12:28 PM
Tiernan;1687034 wrote:The minute that baby changes...take every penny you have and invest it in Cuban real estate. Cuba will easily become The Go to Place in the Carribean once normalized travel is ever established there again.
I don't think you can invest in real estate in a true communist nation
Dec 17, 2014 12:28pm
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Dec 17, 2014 12:33 PM
Cuba sucks; it really really sucks.
Dec 17, 2014 12:33pm
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Dec 17, 2014 12:45 PM
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Dec 17, 2014 12:50 PM
My friend just came back from a vacation there. She's from the Netherlands and the pics look amazing. Clearly the place stopped progressing in the 50's. I LOVE the cars they drive.
Dec 17, 2014 12:50pm
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Dec 17, 2014 8:42 PM
Belly35;1687013 wrote:Sound like more immigration prospect for Obama and the Democrat voting base
You know Cubans overwhelmingly vote republican, right?
Dec 17, 2014 8:42pm
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Dec 17, 2014 8:45 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1687250 wrote:You know Cubans overwhelmingly vote republican, right?
Not only that a lot of Cubans in South Florida are NOT happy with this.
Dec 17, 2014 8:45pm
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Dec 17, 2014 9:38 PM
Ytowngirlinfla;1687253 wrote:Not only that a lot of Cubans in South Florida are NOT happy with this.
You'd be pissed, too, if you had to pay $10k to row a boat from Cuba to Florida.
Dec 17, 2014 9:38pm
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Dec 17, 2014 11:13 PM
sleeper;1687046 wrote:Cuba sucks; it really really sucks.
Cuba is awesome. The food sucks, and the government sucks.
Dec 17, 2014 11:13pm
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Dec 17, 2014 11:13 PM
It's about time. This is long overdue.
Dec 17, 2014 11:13pm
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Dec 17, 2014 11:41 PM
I will become a number 1 vacation spot for us tourists
Dec 17, 2014 11:41pm
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Dec 18, 2014 1:06 AM
sportchampps;1687308 wrote:I will become a number 1 vacation spot for us tourists
You will?
Dec 18, 2014 1:06am
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Dec 19, 2014 1:43 AM
OSH;1687301 wrote:It's about time. This is long overdue.
why?
Dec 19, 2014 1:43am
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Dec 19, 2014 3:26 AM
I just want some good cigars. And, fuck that....quality beachfront casino property.
Dec 19, 2014 3:26am
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Dec 19, 2014 6:15 AM
Major League Baseball teams might be the biggest benefactor. Otherwise, not a big deal.
Dec 19, 2014 6:15am
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Dec 19, 2014 9:56 AM
gut;1687656 wrote:I just want some good cigars. And, fuck that....quality beachfront casino property.
Cubans are "good" because they are illegal. There are better cigars out there for sure.

Better than most, sure. But Puerto Rico, Nicaragua and Dominican make pretty awesome cigars.
Dec 19, 2014 9:56am
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Dec 19, 2014 11:02 AM
People know that this is only happening because of the U.S.'s embargo with Cuba combined with the Russian recession that's essentially cutoff all supplies to Cuba and turned that place into a crap-hole... right?
Dec 19, 2014 11:02am
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Dec 19, 2014 11:59 AM
Glory Days;1687651 wrote:why?
Why not? Why does it make sense to have the embargo?

I could give a whole list of reasons...but, without a good understanding of any embargo, no reasons would really mean anything.
Dec 19, 2014 11:59am
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Dec 19, 2014 12:08 PM
Laley23;1687709 wrote:Cubans are "good" because they are illegal. There are better cigars out there for sure.

Better than most, sure. But Puerto Rico, Nicaragua and Dominican make pretty awesome cigars.
From what I've read, Cuba had some exclusive tabbaco genetic lines that made their cigars world class. Once Cuba was hit will all these embargos, a lot of the genetic lines were moved to Nicaragua by certain families and thus the idea that Cubans are still the best cigars in the world is a thing of the past.
Dec 19, 2014 12:08pm
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Dec 19, 2014 12:13 PM
sleeper;1687770 wrote:From what I've read, Cuba had some exclusive tabbaco genetic lines that made their cigars world class. Once Cuba was hit will all these embargos, a lot of the genetic lines were moved to Nicaragua by certain families and thus the idea that Cubans are still the best cigars in the world is a thing of the past.
Makes sense, as I love Nicaraguans the most lol.
Dec 19, 2014 12:13pm