Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 10:39am
                            
                        lol what does 90% done even mean?BR1986FB;1718183 wrote:Take this FWIW...Mort's missed the mark quite a bit lately when he used to be pretty reliable with his info....
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/4/1/8328513/espns-chris-mortensen-browns-90-percent-done-with-manziel
Dr. KnOiTaLL
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 10:42am
                            
                        I took it as 9 out of 10 people are looking past him already.Commander of Awesome;1718201 wrote:lol what does 90% done even mean?
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 11:05am
                            
                        I know I'm not counting on him one bit. Yes, he could completely turn it around but I'm extremely skeptical. Even if he does do a 360, what happens if he does find success? How long before he reverts back to "Bad Johnny?" I'm rooting for the kid, as a person, to get his shit straight (first & foremost) but I'm doubtful he's the franchise QB they've been looking for.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1718202 wrote:I took it as 9 out of 10 people are looking past him already.
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 11:14am
                            
                        Dont you mean 180? :RpS_flapper:BR1986FB;1718213 wrote:I know I'm not counting on him one bit. Yes, he could completely turn it around but I'm extremely skeptical. Even if he does do a 360, what happens if he does find success? How long before he reverts back to "Bad Johnny?" I'm rooting for the kid, as a person, to get his shit straight (first & foremost) but I'm doubtful he's the franchise QB they've been looking for.
I was never a big believer in JFF, and that hasn't changed. Even without the addiction I thought he'd be a bum in the NFL.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 11:24am
                            
                        Yeah, that too.Commander of Awesome;1718216 wrote:Dont you mean 180? :RpS_flapper:
se-alum
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 11:48am
                            
                        The aptitude he showed is that of a scout team QB.Sonofanump;1718191 wrote:Well, the skill set and aptitude he showed is a backup QB, so I would expect them to also move on to look for a starter.
LOL @ Farmer's "tarnished reputation". It's a 4 game suspension for text messaging.
Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 12:14pm
                            
                        If he's good, who really cares (as long as its not a detriment to himself). Nobody cares about Gronk because he produces.BR1986FB;1718213 wrote:I know I'm not counting on him one bit. Yes, he could completely turn it around but I'm extremely skeptical. Even if he does do a 360, what happens if he does find success? How long before he reverts back to "Bad Johnny?" I'm rooting for the kid, as a person, to get his shit straight (first & foremost) but I'm doubtful he's the franchise QB they've been looking for.
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Apr 2, 2015 12:16pm
                            
                        Nothing to do with the rules or suspension, but I think a reputation for meddling in shit that isn't any of his business could definitely be relevant for future job opportunities.se-alum;1718236 wrote:The aptitude he showed is that of a scout team QB.
LOL @ Farmer's "tarnished reputation". It's a 4 game suspension for text messaging.
iclfan2
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 9:20am
                            
                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 11:43am
                            
                        
                                Jesus these guys (ESPN) are horrible.....
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dgljZ?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=cleveland-browns
                        http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dgljZ?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=cleveland-browns
lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 11:46am
                            
                        BR1986FB;1718463 wrote:Jesus these guys (ESPN) are horrible.....
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dgljZ?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=cleveland-browns
"The Browns ran out of gas last season." No we didn't we succumbed to the loss of an Pro Bowl center. You and COA always put ESPN on blast and I always agree. That article was AWFUL
                                        
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                                Apr 3, 2015 11:51am
                            
                        Hannah storm has a nice bod.BR1986FB;1718463 wrote:Jesus these guys (ESPN) are horrible.....
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dgljZ?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=cleveland-browns
                                        
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                                                                Sonofanump
                                                                    
                                Apr 3, 2015 12:16pm
                            
                        She looks great considering her grille exploded on her.thavoice;1718466 wrote:Hannah storm has a nice bod.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 12:34pm
                            
                        I'll post ESPN's crap but, for the most part, it's terrible.lhslep134;1718465 wrote:"The Browns ran out of gas last season." No we didn't we succumbed to the loss of an Pro Bowl center. You and COA always put ESPN on blast and I always agree. That article was AWFUL
I'm starting to see more & more the "journalist's" habits of seeing one person post a story and then everyone else running with it, spinning it to their own style. When one of these national guys posts a story with MKC as their "source" it makes me cringe.
This is the same chick who took one of her high school son's buddy's tweets and ran with it as a "breaking story." Seems like these guys don't have to be accountable anymore.
I used to like guys like LaCanfora but now he's just bitter because his buddy Mike Lombardi got sent packing by the Browns.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 1:04pm
                            
                        
                                You all hate it, yet still read it. I'm more confused about that.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 1:15pm
                            
                        The only time I get on their webpage is to check the Cavs/Tribe's boxscores. When I post an ESPN article, it's most likely from another page reposting it.Laley23;1718497 wrote:You all hate it, yet still read it. I'm more confused about that.
lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Apr 3, 2015 1:30pm
                            
                        Ever hear of masochism? lolLaley23;1718497 wrote:You all hate it, yet still read it. I'm more confused about that.
Go4alOngbOmB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 2:45am
                            
                        
                                Bret Favre had a documented problem with addiction, and he turned out OK....who says that Johnny can't?
Wait.....everybody.....yea.....I tend to side with everybody on this case.......
                        Wait.....everybody.....yea.....I tend to side with everybody on this case.......
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 10:41am
                            
                        
                                Exception, not the rule with Farve.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 10:46am
                            
                        
                                ^^^ I also don't recall Favre being as arrogant/polarizing as Manziel.
                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 12:44pm
                            
                        
                                I hated Weeden before the Browns drafted him, and even I gave him a chance.  So, I am going to give JFF a chance.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 1:58pm
                            
                        Oh, I'm definitely rooting FOR him as it would be a great story but I'm skeptical he will overcome.like_that;1718579 wrote:I hated Weeden before the Browns drafted him, and even I gave him a chance. So, I am going to give JFF a chance.
lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 2:36pm
                            
                        We're all rooting FOR him right? I mean I know there's some fans who just hate him and want him to fail, but I feel like that's the general consensus: rooting FOR him but being realistically skepticalBR1986FB;1718584 wrote:Oh, I'm definitely rooting FOR him as it would be a great story but I'm skeptical he will overcome.
                                        
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                                Apr 4, 2015 4:03pm
                            
                        There's plenty hoping he will fail. Hell, I couldn't stand Frye & McCoy but I'd hoped that they would succeed so this QB nightmare would end.lhslep134;1718589 wrote:We're all rooting FOR him right? I mean I know there's some fans who just hate him and want him to fail, but I feel like that's the general consensus: rooting FOR him but being realistically skeptical
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 4, 2015 5:42pm
                            
                        
                                God I hope not. HATE the orange jerseys....
http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Are-these-the-Browns-new-jerseys-36600403
                        http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Are-these-the-Browns-new-jerseys-36600403