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Jan 27, 2015 5:37 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1700439 wrote:According to a report from NFL Draft Diamonds, Cleveland Browns tight end Jordan Cameron has turned down an offer worth $6-7 million a year.

http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/REPORT-TE-Cameron-turns-down-Browns-offer-35092418
Yeah, I'll wait on a reputable source. Never heard of that fan site before. According to OBR, no offer was made as of yesterday.
Jan 27, 2015 5:37pm
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Jan 27, 2015 5:38 PM
Heretic;1700438 wrote:Well, in fairness, that was mainly Lovie Smith and his fear of playing younger, less-tested players when he can simply throw out a crappy veteran player.
This. Lovie being lovie. He's not a good HC, and I expect him to be canned after this season.
Jan 27, 2015 5:38pm
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Jan 27, 2015 5:44 PM
I'd rather Cameron walk. More $ to spend on more valuable positions and an extra pick (provided them make the qualifying offer).
Jan 27, 2015 5:44pm
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Jan 27, 2015 5:49 PM
Laley23;1700453 wrote:I'd rather Cameron walk. More $ to spend on more valuable positions and an extra pick (provided them make the qualifying offer).
I dont know, TE can be a very important position, and they have $$$$ to burn. Find it hard to believe though that he would turn down that sort of deal coming off of his concussion issues.
Jan 27, 2015 5:49pm
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Jan 27, 2015 6:24 PM
thavoice;1700456 wrote:I dont know, TE can be a very important position, and they have $$$$ to burn. Find it hard to believe though that he would turn down that sort of deal coming off of his concussion issues.
It's important, and there are plenty of TEs who can do what Cameron can do...and stay healthy...and are cheaper.
Jan 27, 2015 6:24pm
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Jan 27, 2015 6:27 PM
Laley23;1700461 wrote:It's important, and there are plenty of TEs who can do what Cameron can do...and stay healthy...and are cheaper.
Yep. Scout the NCAA Tournament and find someone to draft late/Sign as FA and develop.

Sign an decent TE on a 1/2 year deal. Plenty of them out there.
Jan 27, 2015 6:27pm
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Jan 27, 2015 6:40 PM
I guess the big if is if he stays healthy. Unfortunately he has struggled to do that. A healthy Cameron is a top 5 TE in the league imo. Not many TEs can make big plays like he does.
Jan 27, 2015 6:40pm
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Jan 27, 2015 8:19 PM
like_that;1700464 wrote:I guess the big if is if he stays healthy. Unfortunately he has struggled to do that. A healthy Cameron is a top 5 TE in the league imo. Not many TEs can make big plays like he does.
While he may be top 5 when healthy, he is closer to the guys behind him then those ahead. I think he is very replaceable.

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Jan 27, 2015 8:19pm
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Jan 28, 2015 11:19 AM
One thing about big DL....they seem to drop off pretty quickly. The constant pounding they take is brutal to their bodies. May just be my perception but it just seems that position usually sees less of a general, slow decline but more of a fast drop.
Jan 28, 2015 11:19am
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Jan 28, 2015 4:03 PM
Not a bad mock, but I'd take Strong in Round 2 instead of Grayson.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
Jan 28, 2015 4:03pm
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Jan 28, 2015 4:33 PM
se-alum;1700746 wrote:Not a bad mock, but I'd take Strong in Round 2 instead of Grayson.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
Agreed, Grayson is a bum. Not the biggest Strong fan, but wouldn't QQ. Rather Go bennet there and shore up the dline with a top shelf talent than get a WR who I dont think has elite/special talent.

I'd also consider Devin Fuchess with this point. LOL at Grayson.

Also, I like the RT as a priority, but I dont see that happening. Also said "plans to move schwatrz inside" which is wild speculation. I don't see him moving to guard successfully. Could see Hundley, Devin Smith, or Coates there as well.
Jan 28, 2015 4:33pm
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Jan 28, 2015 4:41 PM
Commander of Awesome;1700764 wrote:
I'd also consider Devin Fuchess with this point..
If we can get Funchess I'm cool with letting Cameron walk.
Jan 28, 2015 4:41pm
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Jan 28, 2015 4:46 PM
lhslep134;1700772 wrote:If we can get Funchess I'm cool with letting Cameron walk.
Prob is FA is before draft. I 'd like to keep Cameron bc our offense weapons are terrible. However if he's turning down the deal reported (still very skeptical of that, and be pissed if browns offered that to him tbh he could very easily not play a single regular season down due to concussions) then let him go.
Jan 28, 2015 4:46pm
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Jan 28, 2015 6:43 PM
Right. My take is based on him reportedly turning down the $6/7/yr deal. I agree it's not worth paying that much money to a guy that injury prone.
Jan 28, 2015 6:43pm
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Jan 29, 2015 9:04 AM
lhslep134;1700772 wrote:If we can get Funchess I'm cool with letting Cameron walk.
Do not want Funchess. Absolutely no heart in the player.
Jan 29, 2015 9:04am
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Jan 29, 2015 9:30 AM
wkfan;1700965 wrote:Do not want Funchess. Absolutely no heart in the player.
Not to mention suspect hands. We don't need another UM product that can't catch.
Jan 29, 2015 9:30am
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Jan 29, 2015 11:17 AM
Has there been an refutable source saying he turned that deal down?
Jan 29, 2015 11:17am
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Jan 29, 2015 11:31 AM
thavoice;1701053 wrote:Has there been an refutable source saying he turned that deal down?
You mean reputable? I think the first source was refutable, but wouldn't say I've heard a reputable source yet. :RpS_flapper:
Jan 29, 2015 11:31am
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Jan 29, 2015 11:35 AM
se-alum;1700746 wrote:Not a bad mock, but I'd take Strong in Round 2 instead of Grayson.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php

He has the Patriots taking 3 Buckeye's in the first 4 rounds.
Jan 29, 2015 11:35am
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Jan 29, 2015 12:06 PM
bases_loaded;1701060 wrote:He has the Patriots taking 3 Buckeye's in the first 4 rounds.
Interesting that he has Devin Smith taken before Sammy Coates....
Jan 29, 2015 12:06pm
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Jan 29, 2015 12:21 PM
Not to mention that Joey Bosa is his #1 selection and Cardale Jones is #3 in the 2016 draft.
Jan 29, 2015 12:21pm