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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 1, 2014 8:05pm
Just curious as to where you're hearing this "supporting evidence". I'm not saying it's not out there, I just haven't seen it. Thanks.Midstate01;1680755 wrote:My feelings from the get go yesterday were no way he climbed into a dumpster and killed himself. Now it's starting to sound like maybe there's evidence that possibly supports that. Think there's more to this story.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 1, 2014 11:06pm
Let me rephrase it. You can't sympathize for someone who is no longer living. On the contrary, you can't help but feel empathy for those who are left behind. That was my point. Not that I don't feel sorry for someone still living going through such severe depression.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 1, 2014 11:50pm
Mostly them just saying they think he died on Friday. That's 2 days or a full day at least after he was reported missing. You'd figure if he killed himself that he wouldn't have wondered around for that long then did it.vball10set;1680830 wrote:Just curious as to where you're hearing this "supporting evidence". I'm not saying it's not out there, I just haven't seen it. Thanks.
But at the same time, the gun recovered is his gun.
Just be something I've ever heard of or even seen while studying, to climb in a trash bin, then shoot himself.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 2, 2014 12:45am
Why did a guy with depression history have a gun? C'mon...parents, siblings, friends...somebody knew this and just let it go on.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 2, 2014 3:15am
What are they supposed to do?
"I know you're a grown ass man, but you can't have a gun."
And when he tells them to fuck off, or hides it, then what?
"I know you're a grown ass man, but you can't have a gun."
And when he tells them to fuck off, or hides it, then what?
believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 2, 2014 5:18am
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 2, 2014 11:32am
Yeah, as concussions and awareness of their effects has been made more pronounced, in cases like this, peoples' brains have been studied to see how far their brains have been diminished by the concussions. It can be some scary stuff --- like a seemingly healthy person with the brain of an Altzeimer's patient due to all the damage.believer;1680947 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/missing-ohio-state-player-dead-self-inflicted-gunshot-062550278--ncaaf.html
An autopsy of the brain?
The first I really heard about this going on was a few years back, when a pro wrestler killed his family and himself. He was late 30s, maybe early 40s, but I remember reading that his brain was messed up from a life of head trauma according to the results.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 2, 2014 1:00pm
Chris BenoitHeretic;1681092 wrote:Yeah, as concussions and awareness of their effects has been made more pronounced, in cases like this, peoples' brains have been studied to see how far their brains have been diminished by the concussions. It can be some scary stuff --- like a seemingly healthy person with the brain of an Altzeimer's patient due to all the damage.
The first I really heard about this going on was a few years back, when a pro wrestler killed his family and himself. He was late 30s, maybe early 40s, but I remember reading that his brain was messed up from a life of head trauma according to the results.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 2, 2014 1:09pm
Dude, you are seruiously uneducated and a complete dolt most of the time. And this just proves it. Shut up and move on.Tiernan;1680924 wrote:Why did a guy with depression history have a gun? C'mon...parents, siblings, friends...somebody knew this and just let it go on.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 2, 2014 1:20pm
Yeah, that's it. Thanks. Blanked on the name.wildcats20;1681152 wrote:Chris Benoit
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Dec 2, 2014 3:41pm
THe thing you have to remember about someone who commits suicide is that their thinking at the time is so distorted that they often think they are relieving loved ones of a burden. It is selfish from a healthy person's perspective, but someone who is suicidal is not healthy.
I feel like he climbed into a dumpster because he thought he was a piece of trash and not even worth cleaning up. That is heartbreaking.
I feel like he climbed into a dumpster because he thought he was a piece of trash and not even worth cleaning up. That is heartbreaking.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Dec 2, 2014 4:11pm
It really is sad. I never thought about the side of relieving of loved ones burden before.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1681235 wrote:THe thing you have to remember about someone who commits suicide is that their thinking at the time is so distorted that they often think they are relieving loved ones of a burden. It is selfish from a healthy person's perspective, but someone who is suicidal is not healthy.
I feel like he climbed into a dumpster because he thought he was a piece of trash and not even worth cleaning up. That is heartbreaking.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 2, 2014 4:18pm
What's odd to me his how quickly his mind started to get fucked due to the concussions. I'm not an expert, but you always here about people with concussion issues (CTE) later on in life.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 2, 2014 4:41pm
Were these concussions from high school? I don't know much about wrestling, but it doesn't seem like a sport where concussions are that common, though I guess I could be wrong.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 2, 2014 5:49pm
Yeah if I had a family member with depression problems and knew he had a gun I'd do nothing...so fuck you dipshit and I'll move along when I damn well feel like it.centralbucksfan;1681158 wrote:Dude, you are seruiously uneducated and a complete dolt most of the time. And this just proves it. Shut up and move on.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 3, 2014 4:06pm
You're assuming his family was aware of his problems and that he owned a gun.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 3, 2014 8:36pm
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se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 3, 2014 11:44pm
Sounds like his family was definitely aware of his problems. It's very possible they didn't know about the gun though.Automatik;1681785 wrote:You're assuming his family was aware of his problems and that he owned a gun.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 4, 2014 10:08am
Bingo. And if it was that easy, then there would be less suicides. Bottom line, if someone wants to committ suicide, there isn't much ANYONE can do. They will do it. The IDIOT above is an uneducated dolt. Putting this on family and friends, is beyond ridiculous and just flat out stupid. Shut the PIEHOLE TIERNAN!Automatik;1681785 wrote:You're assuming his family was aware of his problems and that he owned a gun.