2014-2015 Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread

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Mar 14, 2015 12:18am
And I agree. I think Love and Mozgov need more time later in the 4th.
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Mar 14, 2015 11:19am
Pick6;1712735 wrote:The conclusion requires high level thinking?
If high level thinking is defined as "above footwedge's level of intelligence", yes.
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Mar 14, 2015 1:05pm
lhslep134;1712665 wrote:Ah the village idiot has decided to chime in to say "bad coaching".

Sometimes the best coaches get outcoached on individual plays. Blatt's inbounds play was better than Pop's inbounds defense. It happens. Not sure it will happen again, but it happened last night. That's not a knock on Pop it's a compliment to Blatt.

Being able to come to that conclusion requires high level thinking though, something we all know footwedge completely lacks.
I took it as lhslep being facetious, although I could be wrong.
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Mar 14, 2015 2:31pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1712796 wrote:I took it as lhslep being facetious, although I could be wrong.
Lol yeah hence the definition I had to give pick.
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Mar 14, 2015 2:40pm
gport_tennis;1712700 wrote:I'm a big believer of the fouling prior to the shoot when up 3. The play the Cavs ran out of the TO was a beauty. Kyrie was so open there was no one near him to foul.
Again....bad coaching by Pop...plain and simple. A "beauty" inbounds pass will never happen if defensed properly. Something that the resident dolt lhshemp will never understand. The Spurs had a guy putting token pressure on the player inbounding the ball (LeBron) for no good reason. They also had 4 guys standing at the foul line. Lunacy. Are they afraid of a back door slam dunk? LOL. You are taught as a 6 year old to stay between your man and the basket. Well, when you are up 3...with a few seconds left you don't play that way. You play above the arc....all 5...all quicks...not bigs...and you play between the inbounds passer and the receiver. you ram the receiver as he is catching the ball..Justas Sir Charles poigniantly pointed out just before the play. Any backscreen is switched and remember it is 5 on 4 at that point since there is no reason to guard the inbound passer.

Pretty amazing to me that in an industry where the coaches and players each make millions and millions of dollars...that they can't figure out how not to piss away games up 3 with only seconds remaining on the clock.
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Mar 15, 2015 7:50pm
Victor Olidipo is trash, but I very much enjoyed him just dunking all over Delly.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:13pm
Midstate01;1713123 wrote:Victor Olidipo is trash, but I very much enjoyed him just dunking all over Delly.
Trash?

I think we have had this conversation before, but I dont remember why you hate him so much.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:14pm
Laley23;1713131 wrote:Trash?

I think we have had this conversation before, but I dont remember why you hate him so much.
He can't sing.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:17pm
I'd go ahead and give Irving the MVP this year. He's better than Curry.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:19pm
Why are people worried about the East? They won't win a series in more than 5 games the entire bracket.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:32pm
In the last two games, Kyrie is averaging 45 ppg, shooting 68% from the field, and 92% from three.

Decent.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:39pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1713146 wrote:In the last two games, Kyrie is averaging 45 ppg, shooting 68% from the field, and 92% from three.

Decent.
Yeah 2 games, calm the fuck down.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:44pm
For the past 2 games, he's the best player in NBA history.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:48pm
I've never seen a guy who can finish better at the rim than Kyrie. For a guy who can't just over power people and dunk over them, he's unreal.
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Mar 15, 2015 8:54pm
Laley23;1713131 wrote:Trash?

I think we have had this conversation before, but I dont remember why you hate him so much.
I just don't think he's very good.
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Mar 15, 2015 9:21pm
17, 4, and 4 isn't trash
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Mar 15, 2015 9:23pm
Midstate01;1713159 wrote:I just don't think he's very good.
He was "overhyped" in college because of his athletic ability and crazy finishes. So people thought he would come in an be great in the league. He was always going to be fine cause of how athletic he is, but I am honestly surprised at how quickly he has learned to score "easy" buckets.

That said, he has had one heck of a second half to this year. As someone who watches more Orlando games than anyone else, he has started to take on the roll of Scoring guard and not PG like they drafted him for and wasted a year and a half on the experiment. They finally realized Payton is the PG of future and Oladipo and he have been really good since that time (though, Ws are still rare).

Even his yearly stats are nothing to shrug aside as a 2nd year player, IMO. 17ppg, 4rbd, 4ast. 45% FG (48% eFG), 35% 3PT, 82%FT,
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Mar 15, 2015 9:26pm
SportsAndLady;1713163 wrote:17, 4, and 4 isn't trash
Even better since he moved to the 2G only, which I laid out before.

Not that anything would have played out REMOTELY the same. But, would be awesome if he was drafted instead of AB lol
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Mar 15, 2015 9:34pm
My opinion re: Oladipo. I know you're a big fan Laley, but I view him as a great athlete/above average player. Probably a random all-star nominee or two.
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Mar 15, 2015 9:35pm
Benny The Jet;1713155 wrote:I've never seen a guy who can finish better at the rim than Kyrie. For a guy who can't just over power people and dunk over them, he's unreal.
It really is amazing how good of a finisher he is.
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Mar 15, 2015 9:38pm
Pick6;1713171 wrote:My opinion re: Oladipo. I know you're a big fan Laley, but I view him as a great athlete/above average player. Probably a random all-star nominee or two.
Im pretty realistic, I think though.

Im not saying he is all world. Ive always contended he was the safest pick from that draft class cause he wouldnt bust based on athletic ability alone. If he makes a few ASG...there is no way he is trash though. Which is all I was really saying. Not claiming him as anything else at this stage in his career.
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Mar 15, 2015 9:42pm
Commander of Awesome;1713151 wrote:Yeah 2 games, calm the fuck down.
Lol, ok asshole. No need to get all emotional. Did Kyrie piss on your shoes in high school or something?

To every other person out there that isn't roid raging, was simply pointing out the insane efficiency lately. Obviously, COA doesn't permit that type of conversation.
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Mar 15, 2015 10:15pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1713176 wrote:Lol, ok asshole. No need to get all emotional. Did Kyrie piss on your shoes in high school or something?

To every other person out there that isn't roid raging, was simply pointing out the insane efficiency lately. Obviously, COA doesn't permit that type of conversation.
You were braggin' about his 3pt %....over 2 games. I love the Cavs and think Kyrie's great, but keep it in perspective.
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Mar 15, 2015 10:20pm
Commander of Awesome;1713191 wrote:You were braggin' about his 3pt %....over 2 games. I love the Cavs and think Kyrie's great, but keep it in perspective.
Lol, ok. I didn't know my comment of "decent" was gushing with elation about him. I'll try to tone it down for you next time.
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Mar 15, 2015 10:48pm
SportsAndLady;1713163 wrote:17, 4, and 4 isn't trash
Mcw averages 15,6,7. He's trash too.
Putting up numbers on a bad team. I think VO is as athletic as anyone, and gets to the rim well. That's about it.
He did have a really good month of February. He's still not very good though, especially outside the paint.