Laley23;1671079 wrote:Just when you think Classy can't....well, you all know the rest.

Jesus Christ with that comment.

I give him credit. Every single time you think he's reached the pinnacle of stupidity, he finds a way to climb that mountain even higher!

That comment is definitely trolling.

Come on that was too obvious

Seriously he looks terrible so far. I've never watched him and thought man he looks bad, yet early on he's played pretty poorly. Like last night was the type of game you expect him to take over the game as he has hundreds of times before, and he was unable to score a point in the second half? He just hasn't been explosive this year which really raises eyebrows. Bottom line is he's got 11 years under his belt and may be on the downside of his career, which isn't bad considering Pujols this season had 23 and 105 for the Angels this year

Confirmed: you have rocks for brains.

Automatik;1671087 wrote:Confirmed: you have rocks for brains.

So you think he looks good? That effort last night was horrible. 17 points and 8 Turnovers deserves a pass as well? He just hasn't even looked remotely like the guy who played in Miami last season so far

Did you watch him in the playoffs last year? Any of the preseason?


It's been 3 games.


Also, your Pujols comparison is stupid.

Laley23;1671079 wrote:Just when you think Classy can't....well, you all know the rest.

Jesus Christ with that comment.

Heretic;1671080 wrote:I give him credit. Every single time you think he's reached the pinnacle of stupidity, he finds a way to climb that mountain even higher!

These. It's like damn how stupid can you be you can't really believe this shit or be this stupid. Then he goes on and post something even worse. I don't know what he could say and truly believe that would top "Lebron isn't elite anymore" though but I'm sure he will find a way.

I bet Classy really is that dumb, and since people figured out how stupid he really is, he figured he'd try to play it off as trolling... but he's too stupid to do that well.

Automatik;1671092 wrote:Did you watch him in the playoffs last year? Any of the preseason.


It's been 3 games.


Also, your Pujols comparison is stupid.

Yup I did. Have you watched him this season? He looks disengaged and unexplosive through 3 games and this isn't with Wade and Bosh, but two guys in Love and Irving who should really compliment each other well.

You made my Pujols comparison smart with your comment however. He fucking owned in the playoffs with 5 HR's and 15 RBI's in the NLCS and WS combined with over a .500 OBP and had 37 HR and 99 RBI in the regular season while hitting .300

That's wonderful, but we are talking about BASKETBALL. I watched 2 of 3 games. The team overall is sloppy. LeBron will be dominating come Christmas.


I can't even continue this discussion. It's making me feel stupid.

Classyposter58;1671066 wrote:Lebron equals Pujols after the trade to the Angels. He just seems to have gotten caught up in all the hoopla and doesn't seem to have that constant elite presence anymore. He just does not look good at all and may not be elite anymore

lol

Pujols OWNED in the postseason guys...we have nothing to worry about.

Automatik;1671098 wrote:That's wonderful, but we are talking about BASKETBALL. I watched 2 of 3 games. The team overall is sloppy. LeBron will be dominating come Christmas.


I can't even continue this discussion. It's making me feel stupid.

Lets hope he does and I expect him to. It's just I've never seen him look like this and that is troubling to me so far, it's reminding me of how the Lakers looked after they got Howard and everyone thought they would win titles. They wound up sucking balls, and last night losing to Portland who shot the ball poorly by 19 sucked real bad

SportsAndLady;1671103 wrote:Pujols OWNED in the postseason guys...we have nothing to worry about.

Yeah the year before he left

Lebron will prolly go for 35,8 and 8 tonight and all will be forgotten. Looked to me like he is feeling out the team, gonna take months before the Cavs fully click. Blatt has to run the offense through him, far too many times he isn't being used. Lebron is the best creator of offense in the NBA and maybe of all time, you have to use that.

I literally can't even...


first month of the season, the team gets a pass. After that, I'll start to pass judgement. Dion isnt a problem btw.

Pick6;1671110 wrote:I literally can't even...

So...you're a basic bitch? Makes sense! :laugh:

Dion has to accept things are different and want to be a team player. His comments still show he's not ready. The team specifically tells him they want him to hit 3s on pass and shoot situations. Then he is asked about it and says he's a pick and roll player. So that tells me he's not buying in yet. This is why I felt they probably should have told him all along you're coming off the bench. Make him immediately see that you're going to do what's best for the team not for anyone's ego. I think they sort of gave into Dion a little bit.

Dion and kyrie have both had times where they miss a shot or don't receive a shot and I've seen them throw their hands up or just stand there and pout. K love hasn't gotten nearly as many touches as those guys and he's just doing this thing and playing hard. I've not once seen him look like he's upset or complaining.

I really just think kyrie and Dion thought this was going to be easy. And they're now learning a tough lesson the hard way. How they react to it though is the key.

Midstate01;1671132 wrote:Dion has to accept things are different and want to be a team player. His comments still show he's not ready. The team specifically tells him they want him to hit 3s on pass and shoot situations. Then he is asked about it and says he's a pick and roll player. So that tells me he's not buying in yet. This is why I felt they probably should have told him all along you're coming off the bench. Make him immediately see that you're going to do what's best for the team not for anyone's ego. I think they sort of gave into Dion a little bit.

Dion and kyrie have both had times where they miss a shot or don't receive a shot and I've seen them throw their hands up or just stand there and pout. K love hasn't gotten nearly as many touches as those guys and he's just doing this thing and playing hard. I've not once seen him look like he's upset or complaining.

I really just think kyrie and Dion thought this was going to be easy. And they're now learning a tough lesson the hard way. How they react to it though is the key.

The dumb thing is, look how awesome the first quarter was, and Kyrie was simply the initiator. He had like 4 assists in the first quarter and we scored 30+. Dion did look like a big baby the whole game, though. Like he was just pouting and mad that he wasn't one of the go-to guys now. Dude needs put in his place or shipped out. Go be a leading scorer on a cruddy team and see how much fun it is.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1671180 wrote:The dumb thing is, look how awesome the first quarter was, and Kyrie was simply the initiator. He had like 4 assists in the first quarter and we scored 30+. Dion did look like a big baby the whole game, though. Like he was just pouting and mad that he wasn't one of the go-to guys now. Dude needs put in his place or shipped out. Go be a leading scorer on a cruddy team and see how much fun it is.

Here's another article about James' comments and evidently his approach.

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/11/5/7160031/cleveland-cavaliers-trust-lebron-james-kyrie-irving

I know most of you hate Cowherd, but he pretty much agrees with everyone on here (well, except classy).

Basically agrees that LeBron based on his play and comments is letting the young guys realize what it takes to win and that "their way" ain't gonna cut it. He said Waiters is a guy who needs to be put in his place, and LeBron has always been a leader by play and not as much talking to you directly and thinks that's what he's doing with Dion. Let him go his way and suck and lose, then kind of turn it on in a few weeks and everyone will be in board with hard work and doing it the right way. I completely agree.

Also, lol at Wedge for thinking this team didn't need fine-tuning and "calling out" LeBron do for the Chicago comments.

then kind of turn it on in a few weeks and everyone will be in board with hard work and doing it the right way. I completely agree.

Dion is never going to be on board.

He wants to get paid, big big dollars. He sees what Kyrie is making, and in his mind he's as good or better than him.

The role the Cavs need him to play is not going to net him the type of contract he is looking for and thinks he deserves.

Love/Kyrie/Lebron will work it out. Dion Waiters is never going to be happy being a 4th option when he thinks he is a huge alpha male stud SG.

It is going to continue be a source of drama until he is moved, and he needs to be moved.

Asking Love/Lebron/Kyrie to sacrifice to make it work is easy as they are all max guys. Dion wants to be a $12-15 million guy and averaging 11-12ppg on this team as a spot up shooter 4th option is not going to get him to that goal.

He is the ultimate square peg round hole guy right now and no amount of time is going to change that.

IggyPride00;1671199 wrote:Dion is never going to be on board.

He wants to get paid, big big dollars. He sees what Kyrie is making, and in his mind he's as good or better than him.

The role the Cavs need him to play is not going to net him the type of contract he is looking for and thinks he deserves.

Love/Kyrie/Lebron will work it out. Dion Waiters is never going to be happy being a 4th option when he thinks he is a huge alpha male stud SG.

It is going to continue be a source of drama until he is moved, and he needs to be moved.

Asking Love/Lebron/Kyrie to sacrifice to make it work is easy as they are all max guys. Dion wants to be a $12-15 million guy and averaging 11-12ppg on this team as a spot up shooter 4th option is not going to get him to that goal.

He is the ultimate square peg round hole guy right now and no amount of time is going to change that.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with pretty much everything you just said lol.

Dion not starting tonight.

Waiters would be a really good 6th man if he could accept the role.