robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 5, 2014 11:38pm
Yes because passing is infectious and contagious and shooting is not, in a positive way.Ironman92;1671279 wrote:Irving was responsible for 34 points. Will take that every game. Would you rather he have 21 pts and 5 assist?
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Nov 5, 2014 11:39pm
Whichever would win.Ironman92;1671279 wrote:Irving was responsible for 34 points. Will take that every game. Would you rather he have 21 pts and 5 assist?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 5, 2014 11:45pm
Cute stat but he had 34 points.robj55;1671277 wrote:Kyrie Irving 23 shots, 0 assists.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Nov 5, 2014 11:48pm
Would rather have my pg get people involved and drop 20 than go Kobe Bryant mode score 34 points shoot 23 times and not manage a single assist. Lol i assume it usually works out more favorably for the team if a pg does that too
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Nov 5, 2014 11:55pm
http://gfycat.com/RelievedBlandBarracuda
Looked like favors moved a little on that screen that lebron fell down on to set up the game winner
Looked like favors moved a little on that screen that lebron fell down on to set up the game winner
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 5, 2014 11:58pm
Yep, passing and team ball is infectious.KB0938;1671287 wrote:Would rather have my pg get people involved and drop 20 than go Kobe Bryant mode score 34 points shoot 23 times and not manage a single assist. Lol i assume it usually works out more favorably for the team if a pg does that too
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Nov 6, 2014 12:09am
Someone on the floor asked Miller why he fouled and he motioned towards the bench. I went back and watched the play again and it looks like Lue tells him to foul. After the FT's a TO was called and it showed Blatt asking the assistants why they would foul to which one of them said something along the lines of I have no idea. Meanwhile, Lue just stares at Blatt with a dumb look on his face. Miller did what he was told and they definitely did not need to foul.friendfromlowry;1671260 wrote:Because Mike Miller.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Nov 6, 2014 12:20am
So because Tyron Lue, then. It'd just be nice if they were all on the same page. Don't play 47 minutes of competitive basketball and potentially blow the last minute by fouling when you don't need to.sportswizuhrd;1671290 wrote:Someone on the floor asked Miller why he fouled and he motioned towards the bench. I went back and watched the play again and it looks like Lue tells him to foul. After the FT's a TO was called and it showed Blatt asking the assistants why they would foul to which one of them said something along the lines of I have no idea. Meanwhile, Lue just stares at Blatt with a dumb look on his face. Miller did what he was told and they definitely did not need to foul.
As for Irving's box score. Most of his 23 shots were driving the lane, throwing up garbage shots over two or three defenders. He had a great, perhaps lucky, night scoring the way he did. But he won't be scoring a lot of points on those kinds of shots consistently. Remember five months ago when we watched the Spurs win a championship with team basketball?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 6, 2014 6:49am
Yeah...Irving's fault with 34 points. Kevin Love does anything better than 2/10 and Cavs win. If Marion or Miller score in their 46 min of play they win.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 6, 2014 8:10am
But but but he's supposed to pass!!!!Ironman92;1671295 wrote:Yeah...Irving's fault with 34 points. Kevin Love does anything better than 2/10 and Cavs win. If Marion or Miller score in their 46 min of play they win.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Nov 6, 2014 8:58am
When Miller fouled they zoomed in on him and it looked like Lebron pointed to the clock, Miller threw his arms up and pointed to the bench, as if to say "im just doing what they told me"
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 6, 2014 9:24am
I watched the game last night and we look terrible. Lebron barely seems like he's trying and there is virtually no offense. It's a lot of 1 on 1 with Irving and Lebron taking turns at it.
But I think we will be fine.
But I think we will be fine.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 6, 2014 9:47am
Kyrie has 36 shot attempts over 6 quarters without an assist. As long as he's getting his though!! It's obviously working.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 6, 2014 10:35am
The whole team is playing like shit. Trying to put more blame on any 1 guy is dumb.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 6, 2014 11:00am
Just let us know at what point to start addressing him as Kyrie Diop.Pick6;1671319 wrote:Kyrie has 36 shot attempts over 6 quarters without an assist. As long as he's getting his though!! It's obviously working.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Nov 6, 2014 11:46am
Hes not a bad player by any means, but when your pg goes 6 quarters without an assist and your team has less assists in a game than any team did last year in 1230 games....its not a good signIronman92;1671340 wrote:Just let us know at what point to start addressing him as Kyrie Diop.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Nov 6, 2014 12:42pm
The encouraging part for me was to watch them in the second half. Yeah, they lost the game, but they looked much better in the second half outside of Kyrie's tendency to go 1 on 5. Defensive intensity looked much improved, and there was more ball movement. Still not where we need to be on the offensive end of the floor, but I liked what I saw from a defensive standpoint.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 6, 2014 12:45pm
They need to move the ball to the weak side of the floor, they aren't getting any open and quality looks because Kyrie keeps the ball in his hands far too long in the pick and roll and plays with it too much. Move the ball and make the extra passes to the weak side and then attack, simple basketball.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 6, 2014 12:47pm
Maybe we'll hear more about the "exchange" in the locker room between LeBron and Kyrie after the game. ...or maybe we won't.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 6, 2014 12:48pm
??? What happened?Con_Alma;1671390 wrote:Maybe we'll hear more about the "exchange" in the locker room between LeBron and Kyrie after the game. ...or maybe we won't.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 6, 2014 12:50pm
Don't know. Apparently it was after the Portland game though.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Nov 6, 2014 12:53pm
Con_Alma;1671390 wrote:Maybe we'll hear more about the "exchange" in the locker room between LeBron and Kyrie after the game. ...or maybe we won't.
Source?Con_Alma;1671393 wrote:Don't know. Apparently it was after the Portland game though.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 6, 2014 12:57pm
Windhorst ESPN reported it based on multiple eyewitnesses.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Nov 6, 2014 1:03pm
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 6, 2014 1:03pm
Real question, is Kyrie able to be a legit facilitator?? Going back to h/s and then at Duke....has he always been a shoot first PG?