SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2015 2:20pm
What exactly does empty stats mean?
Putting up big stats on a bad team? Not really effecting the outcome of the game?
I don't think anyone expected wiggins to lead Minnesota to the playoffs putting up 20 and 10.
Putting up big stats on a bad team? Not really effecting the outcome of the game?
I don't think anyone expected wiggins to lead Minnesota to the playoffs putting up 20 and 10.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 3, 2015 2:26pm
I would still do the trade but it's not as much as a slam dunk as it was before.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 3, 2015 2:44pm
Yes to both.SportsAndLady;1692380 wrote:What exactly does empty stats mean?
Putting up big stats on a bad team? Not really effecting the outcome of the game?
I don't think anyone expected wiggins to lead Minnesota to the playoffs putting up 20 and 10.
And I understand no one thought he'd lead to playoffs, I was just stating that his box score doesn't tell the whole story.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2015 2:45pm
That he's putting up stats but he isn't as good as the stats say he is?HighRoller74;1692385 wrote:Yes to both.
And I understand no one thought he'd lead to playoffs, I was just stating that his box score doesn't tell the whole story.
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Can you just tell me what it is you are actually trying to say instead of using phrases that are bouncing around the main point lol
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 3, 2015 3:05pm
Lol I'll try again. Made sense in my head.
Basically saying can't look at his numbers and think they would transfer to cleveland. He'd be playing mostly with the 2s and would be 2nd or 3rd option with them. Add in the fact his defense hasn't transferred over like we all though and Cleveland would actually be worse than we are now with the current roster.
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Basically saying can't look at his numbers and think they would transfer to cleveland. He'd be playing mostly with the 2s and would be 2nd or 3rd option with them. Add in the fact his defense hasn't transferred over like we all though and Cleveland would actually be worse than we are now with the current roster.
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Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 3, 2015 3:31pm
doesn't mean much, but interesting to look at re: wiggins
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/assessing-andrew-wiggins-30-games-in/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/assessing-andrew-wiggins-30-games-in/
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 3, 2015 3:32pm
WTF are you talking about? LeBron hit an amazing 57% of his shots last season...again a number neither Kobe nor MJ ever sniffed.wildcats20;1692058 wrote:51% the first year. So no, he didn't.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 3, 2015 3:40pm
Yeah, well I didn't expect Love's shooting to be way down percentage wise...as are his rebounds per game (way down and inexcusable). And LeBron is nowhere near the numbers posted over the past 4 years. When your star players play like crud, then your winning percentage is gonna suck. This isn't rocket science Failey.Laley23;1692368 wrote:No one should be surprised. FootWedge said the title was a lock and LBJ was an idiot for saying Bulls were better right now.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 3, 2015 3:46pm
You didn't expect it, which makes you wrong lol.Footwedge;1692401 wrote:Yeah, well I didn't expect Love's shooting to be way down percentage wise...as are his rebounds per game (way down and inexcusable). And LeBron is nowhere near the numbers posted over the past 4 years. When your star players play like crud, then your winning percentage is gonna suck. This isn't rocket science Failey.
We all predicted Love to be worse. LBJ has been a different player and that is unexpected, but looking at that roster, most could've told you they were a ways away. Not this bad, but closer to this than what you were spouting off.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 3, 2015 3:48pm
As for the trade, it was terrible then and it's terrible now. If the Cavs don't win the title, the trade is an ultimate fail. Love likely comes as a FA and you have Wiggins still...
AW is starting to play much better, btw, for those not watching. Gaining confidence each game and starting to do what we saw versus his peers at the world championships etc. Dunking, going 1-1 with confidence and putting up 20+.
AW is starting to play much better, btw, for those not watching. Gaining confidence each game and starting to do what we saw versus his peers at the world championships etc. Dunking, going 1-1 with confidence and putting up 20+.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 3, 2015 5:14pm
They wouldn't have had the cap room to sign Love as an FA. How do people still not get that?Laley23;1692404 wrote:As for the trade, it was terrible then and it's terrible now. If the Cavs don't win the title, the trade is an ultimate fail. Love likely comes as a FA and you have Wiggins still...
AW is starting to play much better, btw, for those not watching. Gaining confidence each game and starting to do what we saw versus his peers at the world championships etc. Dunking, going 1-1 with confidence and putting up 20+.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2015 5:20pm
I'm sure they could have found a wayMulva;1692433 wrote:They wouldn't have had the cap room to sign Love as an FA. How do people still not get that?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 3, 2015 5:31pm
might want to do a little more research there, sport.SportsAndLady;1692437 wrote:I'm sure they could have found a way
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 3, 2015 5:37pm
Like you did in buying a gun thread? lolfailPick6;1692440 wrote:might want to do a little more research there, sport.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 3, 2015 5:40pm
Fielded a 4 man roster? Or convinced Love to sign for $8 million a year?SportsAndLady;1692437 wrote:I'm sure they could have found a way
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2015 5:44pm
Crazier things have happened then a sports team figuring out a way to get creative with their salary cap.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2015 5:44pm
Lol niceCommander of Awesome;1692442 wrote:Like you did in buying a gun thread? lolfail
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 3, 2015 5:46pm
that was pretty weak even for you.Commander of Awesome;1692442 wrote:Like you did in buying a gun thread? lolfail
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2015 5:51pm
Wrong thread
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 3, 2015 7:53pm
You said he shot well over 50% all 4 years in Miami.Footwedge;1692397 wrote:WTF are you talking about? LeBron hit an amazing 57% of his shots last season...again a number neither Kobe nor MJ ever sniffed.
He shot 51% his first year there. So no he didn't.
Don't let the facts get in your way though.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 3, 2015 9:14pm
pwned.wildcats20;1692477 wrote:You said he shot well over 50% all 4 years in Miami.
He shot 51% his first year there. So no he didn't.
Don't let the facts get in your way though.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 4, 2015 2:07pm
Dion with a great first half.
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Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2015 4:29pm
Is twitter exaggerating, or did he really shoot 3 airballs and chuck one of the top of the backboard?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 5, 2015 7:27pm
Scoop Jardine tweeted and has since deleted that Dion got traded.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 5, 2015 7:28pm
Now Woj
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 4s4 seconds ago Cleveland pulled Dion Waiters out of the game tonight and have a deal to trade him, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 4s4 seconds ago Cleveland pulled Dion Waiters out of the game tonight and have a deal to trade him, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.