Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 15, 2015 12:04pm
Exposed for not having a good enough team? Absolutely.
Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:05pm
I think it's a combo of the Warriors having figured out how to beat the Cavs and the Cavs just being dead tired.robj55;1734885 wrote:Zwick says that the Cavs are exposed when it was a 1 point game with 4 minutes left in the game, makes sense.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 15, 2015 12:07pm
This is starting to resemble when Iverson took the Sixers to the finals and had an insane Game 1 vs Lakers but just no contest as his team had no chance against the much better Lakers team.
Golden State should take it in 6....hope something great happens for the Cavs
Golden State should take it in 6....hope something great happens for the Cavs
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:09pm
And that's what it all comes down too.. Cleveland is injured and tired. GS is a better team at the point and deeper.
I will agree with sleeper on one thing.. when you have lebron, you're never fully out of it.
I will agree with sleeper on one thing.. when you have lebron, you're never fully out of it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:09pm
I don't know that GS has the "better" team. Deeper, yes, but not so much better. The Warriors taking over in the 4th has more to do with fatigue than being better, if you ask me. They have done well at exploiting mismatches.Automatik;1734887 wrote:Exposed for not having a good enough team? Absolutely.
Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:12pm
no at this point they're a better team. They're deeper too, but better starting 5.BR1986FB;1734892 wrote:I don't know that GS has the "better" team. Deeper, yes, but not so much better. The Warriors taking over in the 4th has more to do with fatigue than being better, if you ask me. They have done well at exploiting mismatches.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2015 12:12pm
Ignorance, nothing new from you.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734886 wrote:no way!! did you know it was tied at zero to start?
They even won 2 that way!
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2015 12:13pm
And the Cavs' legs are dead come the 4th quarter, last two games it's been evident.Automatik;1734887 wrote:Exposed for not having a good enough team? Absolutely.
Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:15pm
This was part of my argument. They are going toe to toe, punch for punch, with the Warriors until about halfway through the 4th and then they are just gassed.robj55;1734896 wrote:And the Cavs' legs are dead come the 4th quarter, last two games it's been evident.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2015 12:16pm
It's embarrassing that the Warriors are even struggling to win this series vs this cavs team, all time great team? No way.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:16pm
robj55;1734895 wrote:Ignorance, nothing new from you.
Ignorance is validating a team by how close they kept it at some point. Care to share thought on game 4? I mean the cavs made a little run late .. did that give you all the evidence you needed to say they're still the better team?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2015 12:22pm
Game 4 was a 6 point game going into the 4th quarter when the Cavs couldn't make a shot, 4-27 from three. This series has been competitive. Game 4 the Warriors made adjustments and Blatt refused to make his own until game 5.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734899 wrote:Ignorance is validating a team by how close they kept it at some point. Care to share thought on game 4? I mean the cavs made a little run late .. did that give you all the evidence you needed to say they're still the better team?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 15, 2015 12:23pm
Those daggers from Curry late in the game aren't going in because Cleveland is tired.BR1986FB;1734892 wrote:I don't know that GS has the "better" team. Deeper, yes, but not so much better. The Warriors taking over in the 4th has more to do with fatigue than being better, if you ask me. They have done well at exploiting mismatches.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2015 12:27pm
No but giving up offensive rebounds is a direct result of that.Automatik;1734901 wrote:Those daggers from Curry late in the game aren't going in because Cleveland is tired.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:27pm
But they might be going in because he's getting more open looks in the 4th due to tired defenders not being able to get in his face.Automatik;1734901 wrote:Those daggers from Curry late in the game aren't going in because Cleveland is tired.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:28pm
robj55;1734900 wrote:Game 4 was a 6 point game going into the 4th quarter when the Cavs couldn't make a shot, 4-27 from three. This series has been competitive. Game 4 the Warriors made adjustments and Blatt refused to make his own until game 5.
see how anecdotal facts always help your case.
How bout how the Cavs were down 15-20 at points. Down 12 at half time. Lost by 11? Or nah since that doesn't fit your narrative?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 15, 2015 12:29pm
Ok then, Cleveland is giving them the games. Got it.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:30pm
Automatik;1734905 wrote:Ok then, Cleveland is giving them the games. Got it.
you have to understand.... Cleveland cannot be beaten, they can only beat themselves.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 15, 2015 12:30pm
I mean I give them all the credit in the world for getting to this point, but fuck...it's obvious.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:32pm
Cleveland isn't "giving them the games" but if you can't see that the Cavs are running on fumes late in the game, you're watching a different game than most of us.Automatik;1734905 wrote:Ok then, Cleveland is giving them the games. Got it.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:32pm
Automatik;1734907 wrote:I mean I give them all the credit in the world for getting to this point, but fuck...it's obvious.
Thats the biggest issue... instead of being like "god damn, cleveland is giving GS a game even though they're injured and have a limited bench, this is impressive" We're going to say Ah, we're still better than them, we're just not finishing. It's crazy talk.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 15, 2015 12:36pm
It's a game. To say the Cavs are out of it is also crazy talk.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734911 wrote:Thats the biggest issue... instead of being like "god damn, cleveland is giving GS a game even though they're injured and have a limited bench, this is impressive" We're going to say Ah, we're still better than them, we're just not finishing. It's crazy talk.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 15, 2015 12:40pm
I already said you were right in the fact that if you have LeBron, you always have a shot.sleeper;1734914 wrote:It's a game. To say the Cavs are out of it is also crazy talk.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:43pm
OMG....idiots, but so funny (from Jimmy Kimmel)....
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/15/8782097/jimmy-kimmel-lie-witness-news-cavaliers-nba-finals
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/15/8782097/jimmy-kimmel-lie-witness-news-cavaliers-nba-finals
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2015 12:45pm