2014-2015 Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread

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Jun 15, 2015 10:37am
BR1986FB;1734820 wrote:What?
If they let Movgov play some early minutes it will provide fresher legs for the Cavs small ball lineup.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:38am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734821 wrote:they tried running the offense thru him in game 4. we saw how that worked.
And Games 2 and 3? It works, Game 4 the Warriors just got super hot in the 4th.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:39am
Automatik;1734817 wrote:lol...broken record.

They are done. Not deep enough and flat out not good enough.

It's a surprise they even made it this far. It sucks for sure, but if I was a Cleveland fan I'd be feeling very optimistic about the future.
Unfortunately I believe this is true. None of the other guys have stepped up. Lebron is the best player in the world but he can't do it all by himself. JR had a great first half then was hesitant and tentative in the 2nd.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:39am
I didn't watch a single minute of this game. Damn.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:41am
sleeper;1734825 wrote:And Games 2 and 3? It works, Game 4 the Warriors just got super hot in the 4th.
Yeah, but wasn't Bogut on the floor instead of the Warriors small ball lineup? If Bogut starts, Hell yes you have Moz out there. Otherwise, he's a defensive liability. The Warriors kind of have the Cavs where they want them. They've figured out how to beat them and I'm not sure the Cavs can really do anything to stop it.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:44am
sleeper;1734825 wrote:And Games 2 and 3? It works, Game 4 the Warriors just got super hot in the 4th.

In 2 and 3 they didn't change their lineup. Mozgov cant play when they go small.. they proved that in game 4.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:46am
Ytowngirlinfla;1734827 wrote:Unfortunately I believe this is true. None of the other guys have stepped up. Lebron is the best player in the world but he can't do it all by himself. JR had a great first half then was hesitant and tentative in the 2nd.
JR started out hot then Golden state put someone on him at all times. JR is too slow/lazy to get open shots. Therefore, no more JR.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:47am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734832 wrote:JR started out hot then Golden state put someone on him at all times. JR is too slow/lazy to get open shots. Therefore, no more JR.
That doesn't really matter because I think JR prefers to have his shots contested. He seems to shoot better with a guy in his face. Long story short is that we're looking at essentially a one man team.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:54am
BR1986FB;1734833 wrote:That doesn't really matter because I think JR prefers to have his shots contested. He seems to shoot better with a guy in his face. Long story short is that we're looking at essentially a one man team.
I think after he air-balled that 3 he was done. Clearly has zero confidence or something is going on with him.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:58am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734831 wrote:In 2 and 3 they didn't change their lineup. Mozgov cant play when they go small.. they proved that in game 4.
I guess the Cavs should just forfeit game 6, would that make you happy?

The Cavs can beat the Warriors, they proved that in Games 2 and 3.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:03am
I think Cleveland becomes the favorite if Wade takes a pay cut to come and play with Lebron. I could see a rematch next season either way in the finals


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Jun 15, 2015 11:04am
sleeper;1734836 wrote:I guess the Cavs should just forfeit game 6, would that make you happy?

The Cavs can beat the Warriors, they proved that in Games 2 and 3.
No.. I don't think they'll need to.

And why the fuck are you talking about games 2,3 like they mean anything at this point. GS CLEARLY isn't going big again.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:05am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734840 wrote:No.. I don't think they'll need to.
So your logic is that the Cavs can't win because they can't play small ball yet that small ball lineup won Games 2 and 3. Great. Go troll elsewhere.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:05am
Classyposter58;1734838 wrote:I think Cleveland becomes the favorite if Wade takes a pay cut to come and play with Lebron. I could see a rematch next season either way in the finals


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LOL


But not with the return of a healthy Love and Irving? Wow.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:05am
Classyposter58;1734838 wrote:I think Cleveland becomes the favorite if Wade takes a pay cut to come and play with Lebron. I could see a rematch next season either way in the finals


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Cavs should just trade Irving for Wade straight up.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:06am
I agree. Wade is the exact player to take them over the hump on the way to a title.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:11am
sleeper;1734841 wrote:So your logic is that the Cavs can't win because they can't play small ball yet that small ball lineup won Games 2 and 3. Great. Go troll elsewhere.
idiot.. listen... GS found out they can put igudola on lebron and he'll do well enough that they can play small and force Cleveland to play small. Cavs don't have much options now. They can't play Mozgov b/c hes a liabilty on the defensive end. . They force Tristan to come out to the wing and pick up curry.. it doesnt end well for cleveland.. either curry hits it or they get a rebound b/c we don't have shit down low anymore. This isnt game 2 or 3. They're playing a different game plan now.. wake...the...fuck....up.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:14am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734845 wrote:idiot.. listen... GS found out they can put igudola on lebron and he'll do well enough that they can play small and force Cleveland to play small. Cavs don't have much options now. They can't play Mozgov b/c hes a liabilty on the defensive end. . They force Tristan to come out to the wing and pick up curry.. it doesnt end well for cleveland.. either curry hits it or they get a rebound b/c we don't have shit down low anymore. This isnt game 2 or 3. They're playing a different game plan now.. wake...the...fuck....up.
Your analysis is so strong. Games 2 and 3 didn't matter. LOL
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Jun 15, 2015 11:14am
There's only 2 ways Cleveland can win...

If they start calling fouls when lebron drives to the hole.

or

Golden state has an off night and doesn't hit shots.

The second could happen.. hasnt happened yet, but it could.
I doubt they start giving lebron a ton of foul calls though.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:14am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734847 wrote:There's only 2 ways Cleveland can win...

If they start calling fouls when lebron drives to the hole.

or

Golden state has an off night and doesn't hit shots.

The second could happen.. hasnt happened yet, but it could.
I doubt they start giving lebron a ton of foul calls though.
Um, Game 2? It already did happen.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:15am
This series would be different if GS got called for even a fraction of the moving screens they get away with.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:15am
sleeper;1734846 wrote:Your analysis is so strong. Games 2 and 3 didn't matter. LOL

It doesn't matter because it's a whole different game now. If they still had boguts dead ass in there then yeah. it might matter.. but they dont.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:15am
Automatik;1734844 wrote:I agree. Wade is the exact player to take them over the hump on the way to a title.
Just what we need, another guy to clog the lane. Makes sense.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:17am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734850 wrote:It doesn't matter because it's a whole different game now. If they still had boguts dead ass in there then yeah. it might matter.. but they dont.
Then don't watch. People said the Cavs wouldn't get where they are now and they did. Your analysis is shit. The Cavs can absolutely win this series and they can absolutely win playing 'small ball'. I mean do you even watch basketball? LOL
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Jun 15, 2015 11:17am
sleeper;1734848 wrote:Um, Game 2? It already did happen.

Um, no. Curry had a bad game and still scored 19.. Klay was on fire.

But nice try.