2014-2015 Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread

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Nov 5, 2014 11:38 PM
Ironman92;1671279 wrote:Irving was responsible for 34 points. Will take that every game. Would you rather he have 21 pts and 5 assist?
Yes because passing is infectious and contagious and shooting is not, in a positive way.
Nov 5, 2014 11:38pm
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Nov 5, 2014 11:39 PM
Ironman92;1671279 wrote:Irving was responsible for 34 points. Will take that every game. Would you rather he have 21 pts and 5 assist?
Whichever would win.
Nov 5, 2014 11:39pm
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Nov 5, 2014 11:45 PM
robj55;1671277 wrote:Kyrie Irving 23 shots, 0 assists.
Cute stat but he had 34 points.
Nov 5, 2014 11:45pm
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Nov 5, 2014 11:48 PM
Would rather have my pg get people involved and drop 20 than go Kobe Bryant mode score 34 points shoot 23 times and not manage a single assist. Lol i assume it usually works out more favorably for the team if a pg does that too
Nov 5, 2014 11:48pm
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Nov 5, 2014 11:55 PM
http://gfycat.com/RelievedBlandBarracuda

Looked like favors moved a little on that screen that lebron fell down on to set up the game winner
Nov 5, 2014 11:55pm
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Nov 5, 2014 11:58 PM
KB0938;1671287 wrote:Would rather have my pg get people involved and drop 20 than go Kobe Bryant mode score 34 points shoot 23 times and not manage a single assist. Lol i assume it usually works out more favorably for the team if a pg does that too
Yep, passing and team ball is infectious.
Nov 5, 2014 11:58pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:09 AM
friendfromlowry;1671260 wrote:Because Mike Miller.
Someone on the floor asked Miller why he fouled and he motioned towards the bench. I went back and watched the play again and it looks like Lue tells him to foul. After the FT's a TO was called and it showed Blatt asking the assistants why they would foul to which one of them said something along the lines of I have no idea. Meanwhile, Lue just stares at Blatt with a dumb look on his face. Miller did what he was told and they definitely did not need to foul.
Nov 6, 2014 12:09am
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Nov 6, 2014 12:20 AM
sportswizuhrd;1671290 wrote:Someone on the floor asked Miller why he fouled and he motioned towards the bench. I went back and watched the play again and it looks like Lue tells him to foul. After the FT's a TO was called and it showed Blatt asking the assistants why they would foul to which one of them said something along the lines of I have no idea. Meanwhile, Lue just stares at Blatt with a dumb look on his face. Miller did what he was told and they definitely did not need to foul.
So because Tyron Lue, then. It'd just be nice if they were all on the same page. Don't play 47 minutes of competitive basketball and potentially blow the last minute by fouling when you don't need to.

As for Irving's box score. Most of his 23 shots were driving the lane, throwing up garbage shots over two or three defenders. He had a great, perhaps lucky, night scoring the way he did. But he won't be scoring a lot of points on those kinds of shots consistently. Remember five months ago when we watched the Spurs win a championship with team basketball?
Nov 6, 2014 12:20am
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Nov 6, 2014 6:49 AM
Yeah...Irving's fault with 34 points. Kevin Love does anything better than 2/10 and Cavs win. If Marion or Miller score in their 46 min of play they win.
Nov 6, 2014 6:49am
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Nov 6, 2014 8:10 AM
Ironman92;1671295 wrote:Yeah...Irving's fault with 34 points. Kevin Love does anything better than 2/10 and Cavs win. If Marion or Miller score in their 46 min of play they win.
But but but he's supposed to pass!!!!
Nov 6, 2014 8:10am
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Nov 6, 2014 8:58 AM
When Miller fouled they zoomed in on him and it looked like Lebron pointed to the clock, Miller threw his arms up and pointed to the bench, as if to say "im just doing what they told me"
Nov 6, 2014 8:58am
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Nov 6, 2014 9:24 AM
I watched the game last night and we look terrible. Lebron barely seems like he's trying and there is virtually no offense. It's a lot of 1 on 1 with Irving and Lebron taking turns at it.

But I think we will be fine.
Nov 6, 2014 9:24am
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Nov 6, 2014 9:47 AM
Kyrie has 36 shot attempts over 6 quarters without an assist. As long as he's getting his though!! It's obviously working.
Nov 6, 2014 9:47am
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Nov 6, 2014 10:35 AM
The whole team is playing like shit. Trying to put more blame on any 1 guy is dumb.
Nov 6, 2014 10:35am
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Nov 6, 2014 11:00 AM
Pick6;1671319 wrote:Kyrie has 36 shot attempts over 6 quarters without an assist. As long as he's getting his though!! It's obviously working.
Just let us know at what point to start addressing him as Kyrie Diop.
Nov 6, 2014 11:00am
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Nov 6, 2014 11:46 AM
Ironman92;1671340 wrote:Just let us know at what point to start addressing him as Kyrie Diop.
Hes not a bad player by any means, but when your pg goes 6 quarters without an assist and your team has less assists in a game than any team did last year in 1230 games....its not a good sign
Nov 6, 2014 11:46am
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Nov 6, 2014 12:42 PM
The encouraging part for me was to watch them in the second half. Yeah, they lost the game, but they looked much better in the second half outside of Kyrie's tendency to go 1 on 5. Defensive intensity looked much improved, and there was more ball movement. Still not where we need to be on the offensive end of the floor, but I liked what I saw from a defensive standpoint.
Nov 6, 2014 12:42pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:45 PM
They need to move the ball to the weak side of the floor, they aren't getting any open and quality looks because Kyrie keeps the ball in his hands far too long in the pick and roll and plays with it too much. Move the ball and make the extra passes to the weak side and then attack, simple basketball.
Nov 6, 2014 12:45pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:47 PM
Maybe we'll hear more about the "exchange" in the locker room between LeBron and Kyrie after the game. ...or maybe we won't.
Nov 6, 2014 12:47pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:48 PM
Con_Alma;1671390 wrote:Maybe we'll hear more about the "exchange" in the locker room between LeBron and Kyrie after the game. ...or maybe we won't.
??? What happened?
Nov 6, 2014 12:48pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:50 PM
Don't know. Apparently it was after the Portland game though.
Nov 6, 2014 12:50pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:53 PM
Con_Alma;1671390 wrote:Maybe we'll hear more about the "exchange" in the locker room between LeBron and Kyrie after the game. ...or maybe we won't.
Con_Alma;1671393 wrote:Don't know. Apparently it was after the Portland game though.
Source?
Nov 6, 2014 12:53pm
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Nov 6, 2014 12:57 PM
Windhorst ESPN reported it based on multiple eyewitnesses.
Nov 6, 2014 12:57pm
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Nov 6, 2014 1:03 PM
Real question, is Kyrie able to be a legit facilitator?? Going back to h/s and then at Duke....has he always been a shoot first PG?
Nov 6, 2014 1:03pm