Heretic
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Oct 12, 2014 10:51am
Pretty much all of this. Classy's post wasn't worth reading from the first sentence, since it was beyond obvious to anyone who actually pays any attention to the Pens that the team had utterly stagnated under Bylsma to the point where they were a regular season monster that everyone knew would collapse, crash and burn emphatically in the postseason, when grit and heart becomes just as (if not moreso) important than sheer natural talent.End of Line;1662578 wrote:Yeah, no. He should've been gone after the meltdown against Philly in '12 and in '13 after the collapse against Boston. A real defense? You do realize the only thing defensive about Bylsma was zone and a fucking stretch pass. The team as a whole is better than it was last year and the defensive depth is better. Don't give me losing Orpik and Niskanen was terrible either. Orpik was hot garbage and Niskanen would've been redundant on this team. Getting Ehrhoff to replace him was a incredible move as he is a better offensive defenseman than him. Also, finally letting the kids play unlike Bylsma will payoff as well.
Now onto Detroit. Detroit is going backwards, and fast. Datsyuk is just about done and Zetterberg is close as well. Time is ticking on them and they both miss chunks of the season due to injuries every year. Howard is overrated and Holland won't let his top prospects play on the top team until they're about 24-25. No top FA's want to go there anymore either. They missed out on Niskanen this year and they offered more than Washington did but didn't want to play there. Imo Detroit's days as an elite team are on done.
They needed someone new to try to get more out of that talent. As to if the new regime is the right "someone", only time will tell that, but anyone with a brain knew they needed to make a change.
Classyposter58
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Oct 13, 2014 10:33am
They don't have gritty players though. I do think Ken Holland is becoming a significant problem however in Detroit and his reluctance to play the good up and coming prospects is really starting to make Babcock mad. But yeah if Datsyuk and Zetterberg can stay healthy, and that's a big if, those guys are still elite players. They do need to start getting top free agents in though or Holland has to goHeretic;1662707 wrote:Pretty much all of this. Classy's post wasn't worth reading from the first sentence, since it was beyond obvious to anyone who actually pays any attention to the Pens that the team had utterly stagnated under Bylsma to the point where they were a regular season monster that everyone knew would collapse, crash and burn emphatically in the postseason, when grit and heart becomes just as (if not moreso) important than sheer natural talent.
They needed someone new to try to get more out of that talent. As to if the new regime is the right "someone", only time will tell that, but anyone with a brain knew they needed to make a change.
gerb131
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Oct 14, 2014 7:34pm
CBJ down 2-0 at home to Stars.
gerb131
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Oct 14, 2014 8:31pm
2-2 end 2. Joey both goals
gerb131
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Oct 17, 2014 1:42pm
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sportchampps
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Oct 17, 2014 9:20pm
Bluejackets up 3-1 early in the third. Hopefully they can hold on then get to Ottawa and win again tomorrow night.
gerb131
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Oct 18, 2014 11:33am
Held on 3-2 cbj
Classyposter58
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Oct 18, 2014 12:48pm
Both Columbus and Detroit look really good early on. The Red Wings are younger than they have been in awhile, Nyquist is incredible and they have a ton of team speed.
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sportchampps
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Oct 18, 2014 8:09pm
CBJ at Ottawa tonight in the first of a 4 game road trip. Jackets down 1-0 after the first and Ottawa is on the power play for the first 1:20 of the second after the CBJ had 3 players in the penalty box the last 4 minutes of the period.
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sportchampps
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Oct 18, 2014 8:45pm
Bluejackets score 2 in less then a minute to tie it up. Bob is in goal after Ottawa 2nd goal as McIlheney left injured.
Classyposter58
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Oct 18, 2014 11:08pm
Wow Wings win on OT goal by Zetterberg to win 1-0 and sweep Toronto. Detroit off to a nice 3-1-1 start
End of Line
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Oct 19, 2014 9:51am
Hornqvist the winger this team has need for a long time. 8 points in 4 games so far.
gerb131
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Oct 19, 2014 12:58pm
I wish Legwand would quit. CBJ killer for ever.
End of Line
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Oct 21, 2014 6:57pm
Sounds like Nathan Horton's career could be over at 29 years old.
TedSheckler
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Oct 21, 2014 7:49pm
Jackets can put him on LTIR and free up some cap space and go shopping.
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sportchampps
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Oct 21, 2014 10:09pm
I've read Bluejackets have insurance on him so they should save some money that way. They also don't really need cap space as they are already 7 mil under.
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sportchampps
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Oct 21, 2014 10:10pm
Also heard they have been shopping around for a replacement so that should be interesting
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sportchampps
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Oct 23, 2014 2:59pm
I got some glass seats for Tuesday I'm pumped
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sportchampps
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Oct 24, 2014 1:11am
Hell Yeah Jackets score with 20 second left to come from behind and win the first one of this California trip win a win.
TedSheckler
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Oct 24, 2014 1:36am
Hell of a game.
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queencitybuckeye
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Oct 24, 2014 6:11am
Did they win?sportchampps;1666251 wrote:Hell Yeah Jackets score with 20 second left to come from behind and win the first one of this California trip win a win.
gerb131
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Oct 25, 2014 11:44am
Beat SJ 5-4 Thursday lost 4-1 to the Cup winners this year Anaheim last night.
Azubuike24
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Oct 25, 2014 11:49am
The Ducks have dominated the regular season the last 2 years, but haven't gotten anywhere when it matters.
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sportchampps
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Oct 25, 2014 1:42pm
Anyone hear anything about Cam he took a nasty skate blade to the face last night looked really close to his eye
gerb131
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Oct 25, 2014 2:43pm
He's ok. Posted a nasty pic on twitter but missed his eye by that much.