Tiernan;1660687 wrote:Keep burying your heads in the sand you naive twits...meanwhile im building an underground impenetrable shelter and stockpiling weapons, food, water waiting for Mr. Ebola to wipe the rest of you
out by the millions.

Please stay down there forever.

WebFire;1662349 wrote:No, the point of the graph was quite clear. And not very well thought out.

I don't think they were considering any of them based on their transmittance. Those are your odds for each when going about your daily life.

Tiernan;1662677 wrote:Yeah let's allow it here and wait until it mutates and becomes passable airborne. Have you fools never watched a single pandemic movie?

Sure. I also watched Deep Blue Sea, but I'm not scared of super-intelligent sharks hunting people.

Tiernan;1663294 wrote:Remember this quote when there are a 1,000 dead by Christmas and the Natl Guard patrols the streets.

Please put this quote in as your signature until Christmas.

Nevermind. I got it.

gut;1662326 wrote:There have been many (dozens?) of Ebola outbreaks in Africa over the past few decades. Rarely has it made it outside of the borders. But look at just how many cases are in Africa currently - it's not spreading like "wildfire" and the OECD countries ARE more equipped to contain and treat it.

This just isn't going to break out in some mass plague or epidemic in the US. Sure, anyone can come up with scenarios where it does. Those scenarios are all EXTREMELY unlikely. It's pretty clear the transmission efficacy is relatively low, and it has to be otherwise a disease that mimics flu and other illnesses and is contagious for 21+ days and highly deadly would have already about wiped us out by now.

A few things you're not taking into account. You mention the outbreaks rarely making it outside Africa's borders. Africans don't typically travel outside their borders as much as Americans. They are pretty confined to their own area.

Take Dallas, for instance. All that has to happen is for one, or several, of these people who have been exposed show up to a Cowboys or Mavericks game where there are thousands. They expose it to 20-40 people who in turn expose it to more and so on, and so on.

To think this isn't airborne is pretty naive. All it takes is a sneeze, whether directly on someone or perhaps airborne particals settle on a doorknob, or a faucet handle (as examples, make up your own scenario). This shit doesn't die for FOUR days. Transmitting it isn't that difficult.

I'm not saying we need to go into full on panic mode but people seem to be taking a laid back "it won't turn into a mass epidemic here" attitude when it's quite possible.

BR1986FB;1663669 wrote: To think this isn't airborne is pretty naive.

No, it's science and based on fact. It doesn't spread like you think nor is it nearly that easy to contract or Africa would have been wiped out long ago.

You are aware there have been dozens of outbreaks in Africa over the years? And despite the poor medical services and sanitation it's always been contained.

A second worker has tested positive.

gut;1663671 wrote:No, it's science and based on fact.

LOL....keep on believing

GoChiefs;1663672 wrote:A second worker has tested positive.

Dallas hospitals not looking too good here.

BR1986FB;1663673 wrote:LOL....keep on believing

Stop watching the scare crap on tv and educate yourself. I'm laughing my ass off at how ignorant you are, even more comical that you think I'm the naive one.

gut;1663677 wrote:Stop watching the scare crap on tv and educate yourself. I'm laughing my ass off at how ignorant you are, even more comical that you think I'm the naive one.

Laugh all you want but you're not taking into account the differences in countries. People from little old Africa aren't exactly hopping on planes, taking vacations, attending sporting events, etc where this can spread RAPIDLY. We're not in a "tribal" type society. We get out a little more and expose ourselves to a lot more than they do.

I don't need to "educate" myself when you seem to be the "ignorant" one buying everything that is shoved down your throat. I heard a doctor on the radio this morning saying "we don't know if it could be airborne" but take what you're hearing as gospel. :rolleyes:

gut;1663677 wrote:Stop watching the scare crap on tv and educate yourself. I'm laughing my ass off at how ignorant you are, even more comical that you think I'm the naive one.

If we believed what was on TV, we'd believe what you are saying. How is it you an expert on this?

BR1986FB;1663669 wrote:To think this isn't airborne is pretty naive. All it takes is a sneeze, whether directly on someone or perhaps airborne particals settle on a doorknob, or a faucet handle (as examples, make up your own scenario). This shit doesn't die for FOUR days. Transmitting it isn't that difficult.

How is it naive when no scientific data supports that it is airborne?

BR1986FB;1663673 wrote:LOL....keep on believing

Solid reasoning.

BR1986FB;1663681 wrote:I don't need to "educate" myself when you seem to be the "ignorant" one buying everything that is shoved down your throat. I heard a doctor on the radio this morning saying "we don't know if it could be airborne" but take what you're hearing as gospel. :rolleyes:

Probably one of the most hypocritical posts I've read on here. Don't buy into everything shoved down your throat, BUT WAIT, I heard a doctor on the radio say it could be airborne!

BR1986FB;1663681 wrote:Laugh all you want but you're not taking into account the differences in countries. People from little old Africa aren't exactly hopping on planes, taking vacations, attending sporting events, etc where this can spread RAPIDLY. We're not in a "tribal" type society. We get out a little more and expose ourselves to a lot more than they do.

I don't need to "educate" myself when you seem to be the "ignorant" one buying everything that is shoved down your throat. I heard a doctor on the radio this morning saying "we don't know if it could be airborne" but take what you're hearing as gospel. :rolleyes:

Just an aside: You do know that Africa does have cities and such, and that not all people there ... including those having contracted this over the years ... live in "the bush," right? That they're not all tribal?

Guinea's city of Camayenne has about 2 million people. Monrovia, Liberia has about 1 million. Same with Freetown (about 1.2M) in Sierra Leone. And when you figure in the square mileage, it's mind-boggling that that many people can exist in such small cities, geographically speaking, which means that there is no shortage of chances to spread a contagious disease rather quickly, ESPECIALLY when you add in the poor sanitation, aggregate living conditions, and the inferior healthcare.

O-Trap;1663701 wrote:Just an aside: You do know that Africa does have cities and such, and that not all people there ... including those having contracted this over the years ... live in "the bush," right? That they're not all tribal?

Guinea's city of Camayenne has about 2 million people. Monrovia, Liberia has about 1 million. Same with Freetown (about 1.2M) in Sierra Leone. And when you figure in the square mileage, it's mind-boggling that that many people can exist in such small cities, geographically speaking, which means that there is no shortage of chances to spread a contagious disease rather quickly, ESPECIALLY when you add in the poor sanitation, aggregate living conditions, and the inferior healthcare.

Yes, I'm aware.

friendfromlowry;1663700 wrote: Probably one of the most hypocritical posts I've read on here. Don't buy into everything shoved down your throat, BUT WAIT, I heard a doctor on the radio say it could be airborne!

And I'm not taking what one doctor says on the radio as gospel either. But to think "well, because it's always been said that it's not an airborne disease and can only be passed through body fluids" is fact is naive when it seems like they really don't have much of a grip on this.

BR1986FB;1663706 wrote:And I'm not taking what one doctor says on the radio as gospel either. But to think "well, because it's always been said that it's not an airborne disease and can only be passed through body fluids" is fact is naive when it seems like they really don't have much of a grip on this.

You're speculating that nearly everything about the disease could have finally mutated while telling others to get a grip.

friendfromlowry;1663710 wrote:You're speculating that nearly everything about the disease could have finally mutated while telling others to get a grip.

Who am I telling to "get a grip?" I said they "don't have much of a grip on this" meaning they don't really seem to know whether it can or can't spread via airborne means.

Maybe this isn’t that big of a problem … neither was cigarettes and second hand smoke.

BR1986FB;1663711 wrote:Who am I telling to "get a grip?" I said they "don't have much of a grip on this" meaning they don't really seem to know whether it can or can't spread via airborne means.

I haven't seen anything from a reputable source (WHO, CDC, etc) suggesting there's any question to it. There are plenty of news agencies -- the same ones reporting when someone shows symptoms that later turned out to not be Ebola -- bringing it up. The guy who died last week flew on an airplane, right? If it was airborne, you'd think we'd be seeing more than two cases since, both which involved nurses who directly cared for him.

Belly35;1663714 wrote:Maybe this isn’t that big of a problem … neither was cigarettes and second hand smoke.

Are/were cigarettes a recurring disease in countries halfway across the world like Ebola is? Another apples to oranges argument. You're on a roll.

BR1986FB;1663669 wrote: To think this isn't airborne is pretty naive. All it takes is a sneeze, .

Not the same thing.

BR1986FB;1663711 wrote:Who am I telling to "get a grip?" I said they "don't have much of a grip on this" meaning they don't really seem to know whether it can or can't spread via airborne means.

They know exactly where they fell short on both cases in Dallas.

queencitybuckeye;1663720 wrote:They know exactly where they fell short on both cases in Dallas.

They do? Please enlighten us because I haven't heard/seen anything to this effect.

They initially took normal precautions in dealing with the patient (including some exposed skin), not the extreme level of precaution indicated for a virus like Ebola.