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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 13, 2014 11:46am
Having a "niece" unless you are her primary caregiver doesn't give you any insight on parenting. Go back to your video games and let the adults talk.Pick6;1653662 wrote:Nobody deserves the beating that was apparently given by AP, but I totally disagree about 4 year olds knowing any better. Source: I have a 4 year old niece.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Sep 13, 2014 11:48am
go fuck yourself old man. surprised you didn't kill yourself from that OSU loss last week since that is your life.Tiernan;1653667 wrote:Having a "niece" unless you are her primary caregiver doesn't give you any insight on parenting. Go back to your video games and let the adults talk.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Sep 13, 2014 11:48am
Obviously I'm not talking about in this situation. This is abuse, not punishment.Manhattan Buckeye;1653666 wrote:That wasn't simple discipline. Look at the photos again. We aren't into "spanking" but don't judge those that are in to that sort of thing. If there is blood involved, the police should get involved.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 13, 2014 11:49am
Kudos Chief. A lot of "non-parents" spouting off here. One of my biggest pet peeves is people without kids giving out parenting advice.GoChiefs;1653664 wrote:I'm guessing you don't have kids. That's actually when they are learning right from wrong. 4 is not too young for simple discipline.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Sep 13, 2014 11:50am
Yes, they do. A 4 year old is not stupid. They are perfectly capable of knowing and learning right from wrong and knowing why they are getting punished.Manhattan Buckeye;1653665 wrote:They should know better to behave properly, but they don't understand physical punishment. To them it is a fear-mechanism and they don't learn why what they did was wrong.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Sep 13, 2014 11:51am
WTF are you talking about? Do you actually condone AP's actions?GoChiefs;1653675 wrote:Yes, they do. A 4 year old is not stupid. They are perfectly capable of knowing and learning right from wrong and knowing why they are getting punished.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Sep 13, 2014 11:53am
Are you fucking retarded? There's a difference between discipline and abuse.Manhattan Buckeye;1653676 wrote:WTF are you talking about? Do you actually condone AP's actions?

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Sep 13, 2014 11:53am
you are an idiot. nobody is condoning his actions, just pointed out the misconception that 4 year old's "dont know any better"Manhattan Buckeye;1653676 wrote:WTF are you talking about? Do you actually condone AP's actions?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Sep 13, 2014 11:56am
Anyone who believes that 4 years old is too young for physical punishment (hand slapping, light spankings, etc) will end up raising a brat who doesn't know right from wrong. Simple physical punishment can and should start as early as 2 years old. A 2 year old doesn't understand a "talk" when it comes to touching something hot. They understand that if I go near the stove I get smacked on the hand.
This comes from raising 3 boys who range from 8 to 13 years old, that are all 3 VERY respectful young men. The 11 and 13 year old haven't had to be spanked/smacked in years because they are good kids.
Now, I have NEVER even THOUGHT about using a switch on my kids (open hand only). However, my cousins grew up that way (with a switch) they are good/respectful adults.
Now, by the looks of the pictures there is NO DOUBT Peterson went too far. This is EXACTLY why I NEVER spank when I am angry. They might know it is coming later, but I wait until I am calmed down from whatever they did wrong.
Peterson maybe done for the year, especially with the knee jerk reaction the league will make after the Ray Rice thing.
Oh, and a side note, my fantasy season maybe over since he was my first pick.
This comes from raising 3 boys who range from 8 to 13 years old, that are all 3 VERY respectful young men. The 11 and 13 year old haven't had to be spanked/smacked in years because they are good kids.
Now, I have NEVER even THOUGHT about using a switch on my kids (open hand only). However, my cousins grew up that way (with a switch) they are good/respectful adults.
Now, by the looks of the pictures there is NO DOUBT Peterson went too far. This is EXACTLY why I NEVER spank when I am angry. They might know it is coming later, but I wait until I am calmed down from whatever they did wrong.
Peterson maybe done for the year, especially with the knee jerk reaction the league will make after the Ray Rice thing.
Oh, and a side note, my fantasy season maybe over since he was my first pick.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Sep 13, 2014 12:00pm
They don't know better when they are being abused. Spanking a kid on the butt with a hand is up to the parent. Only morons think what AP did is even close to being helpful.Pick6;1653680 wrote:you are an idiot. nobody is condoning his actions, just pointed out the misconception that 4 year old's "dont know any better"
The guy is being charged for a crime for Christ's sake.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Sep 13, 2014 12:05pm
No shit Sherlock.Manhattan Buckeye;1653683 wrote:They don't know better when they are being abused. Spanking a kid on the butt with a hand is up to the parent. Only morons think what AP did is even close to being helpful.
The guy is being charged for a crime for Christ's sake.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 13, 2014 12:11pm
MB & his partner arent into "spanking" ...teachers are gonna love that kid in a couple years.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Sep 13, 2014 12:15pm
You mean Collegiate?Tiernan;1653696 wrote:MB & his partner arent into "spanking" ...teachers are gonna love that kid in a couple years.
http://www.collegiate-va.org/page
This is what they do - they send the child home and tell them not to come back and mommy and daddy have to figure out why they just spent $20,000 on tuition. Discipline problems are't tolerated...or else the kid goes to public school.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Sep 14, 2014 6:38am
Uh, ok. What is your point? Do you have one? This is potentially worse than the Ray Rice situation. A 4 year old does not deserve to get beaten until they bleed, for any reason. I don't care what the kid does, you don't beat the child to the extent that they have bruises and cuts like this.GoChiefs;1653690 wrote:No shit Sherlock.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 14, 2014 7:49am
WhoaCommander of Awesome;1653531 wrote:IF this were manziel, he'd be in prison. Peterson beat his kid so that he had bleeding over multiple parts of his body, including the 4 yr old's penis. I'd say that's overboard. Pretty fucked up.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 14, 2014 7:52am
A swift swat to the backside will work just fine. Tree branch? Fuck no.Rotinaj;1653634 wrote:It's a fucking 4 year old. They don't know any better. If you have to whip your 4 year old child instead of talking to him you are an awful parent.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Sep 14, 2014 9:04am
The point is, you keep trying to fucking argue about something we agree on. Don't be a dumbass.Manhattan Buckeye;1653858 wrote:Uh, ok. What is your point? Do you have one? This is potentially worse than the Ray Rice situation. A 4 year old does not deserve to get beaten until they bleed, for any reason. I don't care what the kid does, you don't beat the child to the extent that they have bruises and cuts like this.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 14, 2014 10:07am
I agreeernest_t_bass;1653869 wrote:A swift swat to the backside will work just fine. Tree branch? Fuck no.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Sep 14, 2014 12:33pm
This isn't a dumbass comment. If those photos that Sherm posted are correct, AP is looking at a few months in prison, and he's never playing in the NFL again.GoChiefs;1653876 wrote:The point is, you keep trying to fucking argue about something we agree on. Don't be a dumbass.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 14, 2014 1:06pm
Wasn't Vick in prison for 2+ years?Manhattan Buckeye;1653924 wrote:This isn't a dumbass comment. If those photos that Sherm posted are correct, AP is looking at a few months in prison, and he's never playing in the NFL again.
I bet AP plays in the NFL again.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 14, 2014 2:06pm
18 months for Vick

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Sep 14, 2014 4:38pm
Peterson will play next week, IMO.Manhattan Buckeye;1653924 wrote:This isn't a dumbass comment. If those photos that Sherm posted are correct, AP is looking at a few months in prison, and he's never playing in the NFL again.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Sep 14, 2014 4:41pm
So punching out an adult woman = lifetime ban most likely for Rice.
Beating up a 4 year old defenseless kid = one week suspension?
Beating up a 4 year old defenseless kid = one week suspension?

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 14, 2014 4:56pm
Kinda this. But he didn't "beat him up."Manhattan Buckeye;1654066 wrote:So punching out an adult woman = lifetime ban most likely for Rice.
Beating up a 4 year old defenseless kid = one week suspension?

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Sep 14, 2014 5:01pm
Pretty much, also keep in mind that the Ray Rice legal process had ended, NFL really won't make a move until legal process completes.Manhattan Buckeye;1654066 wrote:So punching out an adult woman = lifetime ban most likely for Rice.
Beating up a 4 year old defenseless kid = one week suspension?
So once that's over and if/when AD is convicted of his crimes, then yes, he will be suspended.