GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 10, 2014 1:48pm
Small dirt tracks in sprint cars do not have spotters. The most they have are one way radios so track officials can talk to drivers.Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 10, 2014 1:52pm
Yes, because Tony Stewart said he was going to race. Smh. Obviously they knew very early on Tony wasn't racing because they flew in a replacement driver.HelloAgain;1642863 wrote:lol at Stewart initially planning to race after fucking killing someone 12 hours before. Good god what a POS.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Aug 10, 2014 1:54pm
NASCAR teams do because the tracks are bigger and the driver has very limited view out of the car, but I believe sprint cars do not use spotters because the tracks are so small and the cars go so fast around the track the spotter probably can't really keep up with the action, he would be talking the whole time.Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
I've seen the video and while Tony Stewart has anger issues and has done some stupid shit in the past, he had no reason to be pissed at the driver(unless something happened prior to the video starting, but the accident just looked like a bad racing deal), so my gut says to say it was just a terribly unfortunate accident.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Aug 10, 2014 1:56pm
At 9am his team manager said he would race and it was "business as usual." Sounds to me like they received a ton of backlash, then reversed their decision a few hours later.GoChiefs;1642865 wrote:Yes, because Tony Stewart said he was going to race. Smh. Obviously they knew very early on Tony wasn't racing because they flew in a replacement driver.
The mere fact his team would call anything "business as usual" less than 12 hrs after he killed someone with his car is about as big a POS comment as I can remember in sports recently. Whether he's guilty or not, there's really no defending that statement.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 10, 2014 2:00pm
They aren't going to release any differing statement in NASCAR until they have all their ducks in a row. It's nothing new in NASCAR. Maybe at that point they hadn't found a replacement yet, so thats why they just decided to say he was racing.HelloAgain;1642868 wrote:At 9am his team manager said he would race and it was "business as usual." Sounds to me like they received a ton of backlash, then reversed their decision a few hours later.
The mere fact his team would call anything "business as usual" less than 12 hrs after he killed someone with his car is about as big a POS comment as I can remember in sports recently. Whether he's guilty or not, there's really no defending that statement.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I just find it hard to believe there was ever any intention of Tony racing today.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Aug 10, 2014 2:01pm
Sprint cars definitely don't have spotters.Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Aug 10, 2014 2:06pm
There is no justification for using the phrase "business as usual" and indicating he planned to race hours after killing someone. Can't find a replacement? Then I guess no one is driving the car.GoChiefs;1642870 wrote:They aren't going to release any differing statement in NASCAR until they have all their ducks in a row. It's nothing new in NASCAR. Maybe at that point they hadn't found a replacement yet, so thats why they just decided to say he was racing.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I just find it hard to believe there was ever any intention of Tony racing today.
The most logical conclusion here is that they were initially planning to race(as they stated publicly) then reconsidered after the extreme negative public reaction to that statement.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 10, 2014 2:09pm
The last thing Tony Stewart and his team is going to care about is negative public reaction.HelloAgain;1642872 wrote:There is no justification for using the phrase "business as usual" and indicating he planned to race hours after killing someone. Can't find a replacement? Then I guess no one is driving the car.
The most logical conclusion here is that they were initially planning to race(as they stated publicly) then reconsidered after the extreme negative public reaction to that statement.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Aug 10, 2014 2:14pm
When you're facing a potential manslaughter charge, I'm guessing they may begin to care a little more than they have in the past.GoChiefs;1642874 wrote:The last thing Tony Stewart and his team is going to care about is negative public reaction.
I don't happen to think he should be charged with a crime here, but the statement issued this morning was sociopathic. It's completely indefensible.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Aug 10, 2014 2:18pm
While you're somewhat right about the public reaction directly, they surely care about what the sponsors think, and the sponsors definitely care about the public reaction. I am sure Mobil 1 doesn't want a driver out there representing them 14 or so hours after being involved in the death of another driver when most of the public thinks it's crazy that driver could actually go out and race after that.GoChiefs;1642874 wrote:The last thing Tony Stewart and his team is going to care about is negative public reaction.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 10, 2014 2:19pm
Yeah. He was just pissed at him for no reason :rolleyes:Crimson streak;1642859 wrote:Lol you're an idiot. First off it wasn't really even Tony's fault the guy crashed in the first place. And spotters? Lmao you're drunk go home
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Aug 10, 2014 2:22pm
Actually he was the wreck wasn't Tonys fault
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 10, 2014 2:25pm
Drivers rarely think it's their fault. Yes, he was pissed for no reason. The crash was on him, not Tony.Pick6;1642877 wrote:Yeah. He was just pissed at him for no reason :rolleyes:
salto
Posts: 2,611
Aug 10, 2014 3:24pm
You're an idiot.Iliketurtles;1642793 wrote:Tony Stewart is a POS and deliberately hit him,
Wrong. Not in Sprint cars.Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
^Crimson streak;1642871 wrote:Sprint cars definitely don't have spotters.
Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
Aug 10, 2014 4:37pm
I've followed racing of all levels for around 30 years. I have seen things change over the years to improve the safety of the drivers and their pit crews in an effort to minimize injury or death in the sport. With that said (at all levels) there should be rules in place to prevent this from happening like significant fines for exiting your car and intentionally calling out a driver on the "field of play". With all the rules geared toward safety, this is something they have missed and has cost someone their life. I don't believe Tony was intentional, however, a simple rule could have changed this whole situation.
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Aug 10, 2014 4:43pm
Stewart is a POS. Agreed.
He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.
No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.
No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 10, 2014 4:56pm
Agreed.Gardens35;1642907 wrote:Stewart is a POS. Agreed.
He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.
No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
1_beast
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Aug 10, 2014 5:08pm
just checkin in.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Aug 10, 2014 6:02pm
Did salto/said laugh?
salto
Posts: 2,611
Aug 10, 2014 7:51pm
Only at your fail.Tigerfan00;1642937 wrote:Did salto/said laugh?
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 10, 2014 7:54pm
Also agree! He didn't mean to hit him but wanted to get close to him and clipped him in the process!Gardens35;1642907 wrote:Stewart is a POS. Agreed.
He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.
No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 10, 2014 8:15pm
I can't imagine a lawyer signing-off on that statement, but Stewart could potentially be facing criminal charges and so you really shouldn't be saying anything, but anything you do say would have to give no indication of guilt or responsibility.HelloAgain;1642875 wrote: I don't happen to think he should be charged with a crime here, but the statement issued this morning was sociopathic. It's completely indefensible.
"Business as usual", while terribly insensitive, was probably intended to convey no responsibility or liability for the accident.
TedSheckler
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Aug 10, 2014 8:29pm
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 11, 2014 9:46am
NASCAR fans are only upset because they didn't get to see the guy die.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Aug 11, 2014 10:39am
Guy I know went to work the day after someone pulled out in front of him and was hit and killed in an accident. I dont see an issue with it especially when your work/payday is just one day a week pretty much.HelloAgain;1642863 wrote:lol at Stewart initially planning to race after fucking killing someone 12 hours before. Good god what a POS.
I would not have had a problem with him racing the next day