2014-2015 NBA Off Season, Draft, Free Agency

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BR1986FB
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Jul 1, 2014 12:23pm
friendfromlowry;1631800 wrote:Kind of surprised Lebron demanded max deal. He's the best player and definitely deserves it, but Miami's theme is about cutting costs and adding talent. Lebron's demands puts pressure on other players to cut salaries (which they may not do) and management to go out and find cheap(er) players.
I'd assume he discussed it with Wade & Bosh before they opted out. Wade isn't worth a max deal anymore and frankly, I don't think Bosh is either. Egos aside, maybe Lebron told them this?
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Laley23
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Jul 1, 2014 12:25pm
Hate Nelsons game. He is the type of PG who passes it when there is an assist to be had, other than that, its stuck in his hands for 15 seconds each possession.
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Jul 1, 2014 12:30pm
Laley23;1631938 wrote:Hate Nelsons game. He is the type of PG who passes it when there is an assist to be had, other than that, its stuck in his hands for 15 seconds each possession.
Welcome to the NBA lol There are very few pure pg's left who move the ball and create.
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Jul 1, 2014 3:25pm
@WindhorstESPN: Heat telling free agents they will have $12+ million to spend, indicating Wade & Bosh ready to take huge pay cuts, sources told ESPN
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Jul 1, 2014 3:25pm
Targeting Lowry and possibly Gortat.

Gortat would be a huge upgrade over every big on that roster.
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Jul 1, 2014 4:04pm
wildcats20;1632017 wrote:Targeting Lowry and possibly Gortat.

Gortat would be a huge upgrade over every big on that roster.

Yes he would, just can't see how they can make it work financially.
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Jul 1, 2014 4:07pm
wildcats20;1632016 wrote:@WindhorstESPN: Heat telling free agents they will have $12+ million to spend, indicating Wade & Bosh ready to take huge pay cuts, sources told ESPN
Hope they get fucked by the NBA for breaking the rules.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234059/CBA-Explicit-In-Not-Allowing-Prearranged-Restructured-Contracts

Probably wont happen though. Also Gortat is a better big than any big not named LBJ on their team last season.
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Jul 1, 2014 4:07pm
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 2m Consensus around league is Heat would be wise to let Wade walk & spend money elsewhere. But there's a sticking point: He's LeBron's friend

lol wade sucks lol

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 8m If there's issue w Heat, it's Wade still getting superstar $$. One prominent agent says client won't go there "to get less shots than Wade."

lol wade sucks lol
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Jul 1, 2014 4:12pm
Commander of Awesome;1632026 wrote:Hope they get fucked by the NBA for breaking the rules.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234059/CBA-Explicit-In-Not-Allowing-Prearranged-Restructured-Contracts

Probably wont happen though. Also Gortat is a better big than any big not named LBJ on their team last season.
You would think some owners in the league would call the cHeat out on this if it happens.
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Jul 1, 2014 4:36pm
Jodie Meeks has agreed to a 3 year, $19+ mil contract with Detroit.

Thought he was a bright spot for LA last year, but not sure he's worth that much. I'm ok to let him walk.
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Jul 1, 2014 4:58pm
wildcats20;1632034 wrote:Jodie Meeks has agreed to a 3 year, $19+ mil contract with Detroit.

Thought he was a bright spot for LA last year, but not sure he's worth that much. I'm ok to let him walk.
Seems like shooters are at a premium.
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Jul 1, 2014 5:01pm
David Aldridge ✔ @daldridgetnt
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Agent Henry Thomas, on report clients Bosh & Wade will take $12M/per & $11M/per, respectively: "all the BS you are reading is just that."
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Jul 1, 2014 6:56pm
Commander of Awesome;1632026 wrote:
Probably wont happen though. Also Gortat is a better big than any big not named LBJ on their team last season.
Gortat is not better than Bosh. C'mon man.
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Jul 1, 2014 7:13pm
wildcats20;1632034 wrote:Jodie Meeks has agreed to a 3 year, $19+ mil contract with Detroit.

Thought he was a bright spot for LA last year, but not sure he's worth that much. I'm ok to let him walk.
Jeez. And here I thought they had fired Dumars.
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Jul 1, 2014 7:14pm
lhslep134;1632113 wrote:Gortat is not better than Bosh. C'mon man.
Yeah when I said it, I meant true big guy.
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Jul 1, 2014 7:21pm
Pistons going after Isaiah Thomas as well...lol. That franchise is a mess.
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Jul 1, 2014 7:41pm
wildcats20;1632123 wrote:Yeah when I said it, I meant true big guy.
Bosh would be up to the task if the Heat needed him in the paint. It wouldn't end well, but that's not the point because Bosh's value to the Heat lies elsewhere.

Are the Heat better with Bosh or Gortat? Because the answer is so clearly Bosh, I don't understand how Gortat could be an upgrade over "any big" they had last year.

Gortat and Bosh would be pretty freaking potent, but that's not what we're talking about here.
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Jul 1, 2014 7:56pm
Gortat back to the Wizards

5yr/60m
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Jul 1, 2014 7:56pm
Welp

@WojYahooNBA: Marcin Gortat has agreed to a five year, $60 million contract extension with Washington, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
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Jul 1, 2014 7:59pm
I just don't get how the media thinks FA's will be falling over themselves to take pitiful amounts of money (NBA Money, not real life) to sign with the heat. If they only have $12m to sign guys, I don't see them getting anyone better than Trevor Ariza.

Most all of these young players who would help the team, want to get paid. You'll get your ring chasers, but they really aren't going to help at all, looking at you Pau Gasol, Ray Allen, etc.
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Jul 1, 2014 8:04pm
@ESPNNBA: RT @ESPNSteinLine: "No options and a fully guaranteed $60 million" for Gortat, says one source close to process

That's nuts.
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Jul 1, 2014 8:28pm
It depends on the price. The following players (with career earnings listed) have all made plenty of money and have gas in the tank. All could greatly help Miami if they were willing to sign reduced deals.

Boris Diaw (59.4M)
Ray Allen (184.3M)
Trevor Ariza (44.3M)
Shawn Marion (133.5M)

There are others who were in the mold of Jodie Meeks. On the south side of 30 and haven't gotten that decent deal yet. I don't see those guys taking discounts to play in Miami.

Allen is almost guaranteed to follow LeBron and I think the other 3 could fill a role Miami didn't have a year ago. What Shane Battier would've been if he wasn't completely done.
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friendfromlowry
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Jul 1, 2014 11:40pm
IMO, the Heat are fucked. They need a lot of help and will likely have not much money to acquire it. It's not like they were 1-2 guys away.
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Jul 2, 2014 7:53am
Solid article on Miami's free agency situation...

http://grantland.com/features/nba-free-agency-2014-lebron-james/
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Jul 2, 2014 2:21pm
lol. Josh Smith is such a cancer, Greg Monroe is threatening to sign the 1 year qualifying offer of the Pistons (and subsequently leave next year as an UFA) if the Pistons dont trade him.

What a terrible signing that was last year.