
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 26, 2014 3:58pm
Sleeper being sleeper.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jun 26, 2014 4:07pm
Sleeper doing everything within his power to make people forget about Gut saying Pete Rose is only a borderline HoF'er.
Kudos for that, I guess!
Kudos for that, I guess!

Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Jun 26, 2014 4:32pm
Wouldn't there be more competition when there were fewer (much fewer) avenues for artists to reach listeners? And besides, competition has never been a significant force behind music, lol. That's fucking retarded....this isn't industry.sleeper;1630270 wrote:Tell me more about how competition makes things worse...
Music market....stop making shit upsleeper;1630480 wrote:It's too competitive of a music market
mud huts

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 26, 2014 5:48pm
I also love how Thriller is now being touted as MJs best song...lol

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 26, 2014 6:07pm
Biggest video....but he had a lot of really good ones
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Jun 26, 2014 10:02pm
ccrunner609;1630514 wrote:breakthrough video but the song wasnt his best.
His best song was "swan" and died.
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raiderbuck
Posts: 1,623
Jun 27, 2014 8:22am
sleeper;1630458 wrote:In what fantasy world do musicians also choreograph the dance moves to their own song? LOL.
MJ isn't special. You are just delusional.
sleeper;1630466 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalk_(dance)
History of MJ's 'signature' move. LOL.
Tl;dr: He didn't pioneer it; he stole it from other people. Surprise surprise!
1. Most MJ fans know he didnt invent the moonwalk. But any idiot knows he's the guy that made it popular. Hell it's the first sentence in the link you posted!
2. Cab Calloway, Dean Martin, James Brown, Judy Garland...all singers (performers), and all choreographed the move.
3. MJ's version is called the "backslide"...backsliding is a breakdance move, pioneered by Jeffrey Daniel. Daniel himself taught Mike the move in the 80s and MJ performed it during the Motown special.
4. You're a freakin idiot.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 27, 2014 10:53am
Nice googles. Tell me more about the history of music and dance.raiderbuck;1630898 wrote:1. Most MJ fans know he didnt invent the moonwalk. But any idiot knows he's the guy that made it popular. Hell it's the first sentence in the link you posted!
2. Cab Calloway, Dean Martin, James Brown, Judy Garland...all singers (performers), and all choreographed the move.
3. MJ's version is called the "backslide"...backsliding is a breakdance move, pioneered by Jeffrey Daniel. Daniel himself taught Mike the move in the 80s and MJ performed it during the Motown special.
4. You're a freakin idiot.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 27, 2014 10:56am
Googling sleeper gets you "You're a frickin idiot"?

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 27, 2014 11:05am
The reality is raiderbuck googled a bunch of stuff and tried to pass it off like he knew the details the whole time. Desperate at best.vball10set;1630926 wrote:Googling sleeper gets you "You're a frickin idiot"?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 27, 2014 11:31am
I know, but you lobbed a softball and I had to hit it...I couldn't resist.sleeper;1630932 wrote:The reality is raiderbuck googled a bunch of stuff and tried to pass it off like he knew the details the whole time. Desperate at best.
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raiderbuck
Posts: 1,623
Jun 27, 2014 12:30pm
Uhh..no I did not. Jeff Daniel was interviewed during a MJ special about two years ago. I watched it. I believe it was a special about one of his albums (Bad? This is it? Not totally sure.) Plus, most people actually know that about the moonwalk.sleeper;1630932 wrote:The reality is raiderbuck googled a bunch of stuff and tried to pass it off like he knew the details the whole time. Desperate at best.
I referenced the link you posted from wikipedia because it actually dispels the theory that you had about singers not choreographing their own moves. But that concept just went over your head.
Nice try.
edit...Hey! I tried that handy tool called Google and it was actually a special on MJ's "Bad" album:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_25#Marketing_and_promotion

Enforcer
Posts: 2,140
Jun 27, 2014 1:03pm
It was 5 years ago today that I lost My father to a heart attack, way to Young to go at age 47
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 27, 2014 1:29pm
Wow, mine was 55 when he had his fatal heart attack...both way too young, my friend.Enforcer;1630978 wrote:It was 5 years ago today that I lost My father to a heart attack, way to Young to go at age 47

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 27, 2014 2:04pm
sleeper;1630932]The reality is raiderbuck googled a bunch of stuff and tried to pass it off like he knew the details the whole time. Desperate at best.[/QUOTE]
Translation- I'm getting my ass handed to me in this thread so I'll just throw more jibberish out there.
Translation- I'm getting my ass handed to me in this thread so I'll just throw more jibberish out there.

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 27, 2014 2:06pm
Translation- I'm getting my ass handed to me in this thread so I'll just throw more jibberish out there.sleeper;1630932 wrote:The reality is raiderbuck googled a bunch of stuff and tried to pass it off like he knew the details the whole time. Desperate at best.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 27, 2014 4:17pm
Not really. None of the above counters any of my arguments and merely solidifies my position as logically sound. Tell me more about how the all-time great MJ's music is no longer at the top of the charts and other music was so easily able to overcome such great music. Time to grow up old-timer.rmolin73;1631016 wrote:Translation- I'm getting my ass handed to me in this thread so I'll just throw more jibberish out there.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 27, 2014 4:35pm
Why would it be at the top of the charts still? That doesnt make any sense...it was made in the 80s.sleeper;1631054 wrote:Not really. None of the above counters any of my arguments and merely solidifies my position as logically sound. Tell me more about how the all-time great MJ's music is no longer at the top of the charts and other music was so easily able to overcome such great music. Time to grow up old-timer.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 28, 2014 10:17am
hahaha, it's sleeper!!!Laley23;1631057 wrote:Why would it be at the top of the charts still? That doesnt make any sense...it was made in the 80s.

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 28, 2014 10:39am
You're logically stupid. What music from the 80s is at the top of the charts now? You're really bad at this aren't you?sleeper;1631054 wrote:Not really. None of the above counters any of my arguments and merely solidifies my position as logically sound. Tell me more about how the all-time great MJ's music is no longer at the top of the charts and other music was so easily able to overcome such great music. Time to grow up old-timer.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 28, 2014 1:19pm
Maybe because music from the 80's has been surpassed and stomped by more recent music.rmolin73;1631161 wrote:You're logically stupid. What music from the 80s is at the top of the charts now? You're really bad at this aren't you?

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 28, 2014 1:47pm
Goodness you're stupid.sleeper;1631187 wrote:Maybe because music from the 80's has been surpassed and stomped by more recent music.