DUI checkpoints

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vball10set
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Jun 19, 2014 11:39am
vdubb96;1627801 wrote:Tiernan
reps
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Jun 19, 2014 11:46am
Scarlet_Buckeye;1627810 wrote:You don't have to drive down the street that they have setup/camping at.

Besides... what do you all have to hide? if you're not drunk... why so worried/offended?

If you're offended with this, you're likely the same people that are offended that you have to take your shoes off in the TSA line (I'm willing to bet​).
You didn't elaborate on why you think the police have probable cause to stop you. They don't.

What do I have to hide? Nothing. I bet you're likely the type of person who thinks it's ok for the NSA to track and log your phone messages and emails.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:28pm
You don't have to drive down the street that they have setup/camping at.

Besides... what do you all have to hide? if you're not drunk... why so worried/offended?

If you're offended with this, you're likely the same people that are offended that you have to take your shoes off in the TSA line (I'm willing to bet​).
I shouldn't have to check apps or postings just to be able to drive down the street, and most checkpoints will not allow you to turn around and go another direction . They are usually set up as a trap where you go around a bend or over the hill, and BAM! you're in it.

As far as if I'm innocent "why should I be worried"?...because cops make mistakes, can be overly aggressive, and I don't feel that I should be stopped not for one minute if they have no reason to suspect that I'm drunk. If I'm driving erratically that's one thing. But the "why should I be worried if I'm innocent" arguement is a very slippery slope. I would guess that you don't understand the reasons for the fourth amendment.
What do I have to hide? Nothing. I bet you're likely the type of person who thinks it's ok for the NSA to track and log your phone messages and emails

This.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:38pm
TedSheckler;1627820 wrote:You didn't elaborate on why you think the police have probable cause to stop you. They don't.

What do I have to hide? Nothing. I bet you're likely the type of person who thinks it's ok for the NSA to track and log your phone messages and emails.
Why I think the police have probably cause to stop you? Oh... Idk... maybe because these DUI checkpoints are typically setup on Fri or Sat nights? Typically late? Typically near the local town bar? Idk... suppose there's nothing 'probable' about that.

I don't have anything to hide, that's why I'm fine with them. Yeah they suck, but you know what, that's only if your caught breaking the law (driving while intoxicated or not wearing a seat-belt). And if i'm breaking the law, then i suppose i deserve a ticket.

And yes... I am fine with the NSA tracking/logging my phone calls, messages, and emails. Why? Because I have nothing to hide. If they want to see a picture of my dick, fine. So be it. /sarcasm But if the NSA catches Mohammed talking about plans to blow up a public building, then go ahead and log/monitor all the calls you need. Catch that f*cker.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:39pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;1627871 wrote:Why I think the police have probably cause to stop you? Oh... Idk... maybe because these DUI checkpoints are typically setup on Fri or Sat nights? Typically late? Typically near the local town bar? Idk... suppose there's nothing 'probable' about that.

I don't have anything to hide, that's why I'm fine with them. Yeah they suck, but you know what, that's only if your caught breaking the law (driving while intoxicated or not wearing a seat-belt). And if i'm breaking the law, then i suppose i deserve a ticket.

And yes... I am fine with the NSA tracking/logging my phone calls, messages, and emails. Why? Because I have nothing to hide. If they want to see a picture of my dick, fine. So be it. /sarcasm But if the NSA catches Mohammed talking about plans to blow up a public building, then go ahead and log/monitor all the calls you need. Catch that f*cker.
Wow.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:43pm
sleeper;1627873 wrote:Wow.
Reps. Perfectly said.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:44pm
sleeper;1627873 wrote:Wow.
Exactly. I have no response to that. Obviously, he doesn't mind government intrusion into his life and is a-ok with domestic spying.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:51pm
sleeper;1627873 wrote:Wow.
Typical.
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Jun 19, 2014 1:52pm
TedSheckler;1627820 wrote:I bet you're likely the type of person who thinks it's ok for the NSA to track and log your phone messages and emails.
reps for a well placed bet
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Jun 19, 2014 2:03pm
Jesus, how delusional is SB
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Jun 19, 2014 2:11pm
SportsAndLady;1627892 wrote:Jesus, how delusional is SB
On a scale of 1-10, 11, if someone is happy living in 1984-land.
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Jun 19, 2014 2:18pm
Just when I thought that the Hines Ward/Pete Rose discussion was the dumbest thing I have read...I check this thread and find a new clubhouse leader. Unreal.
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Jun 19, 2014 2:20pm
Only 36 posts and already HoF material.
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Jun 19, 2014 2:31pm
I like the dick pics to the NSA idea. Lets send them a montage.
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Jun 19, 2014 3:54pm
Rotinaj;1627908 wrote:I like the dick pics to the NSA idea. Lets send them a montage.
If you took em...... they already have em.
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Jun 19, 2014 3:55pm
Devils Advocate;1627959 wrote:If you took em...... they already have em.
lol, touche'
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Jun 19, 2014 3:57pm
Devils Advocate;1627959 wrote:If you took em...... they already have em.
And are fapping to them hourly.
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Jun 19, 2014 3:59pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;1627871 wrote:Why I think the police have probably cause to stop you? Oh... Idk... maybe because these DUI checkpoints are typically setup on Fri or Sat nights? Typically late? Typically near the local town bar? Idk... suppose there's nothing 'probable' about that.

I don't have anything to hide, that's why I'm fine with them. Yeah they suck, but you know what, that's only if your caught breaking the law (driving while intoxicated or not wearing a seat-belt). And if i'm breaking the law, then i suppose i deserve a ticket.

And yes... I am fine with the NSA tracking/logging my phone calls, messages, and emails. Why? Because I have nothing to hide. If they want to see a picture of my dick, fine. So be it. /sarcasm But if the NSA catches Mohammed talking about plans to blow up a public building, then go ahead and log/monitor all the calls you need. Catch that f*cker.
scarlet, you are a Fucking retard.
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Jun 19, 2014 4:01pm
Devils Advocate;1627959 wrote:If you took em...... they already have em.
They don't have an OC montage though.
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gut
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Jun 19, 2014 4:22pm
wildcats20;1627720 wrote:What I don't understand is why they announce where they will be.
Exactly my question. Must have something to do with the illegal search HitsRus mentioned.
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Jun 19, 2014 5:54pm
I have no problems with busting drunk/stoned drivers. If the actual "Please pull over, Sir" situations result from conditions that an officer could readily observe without knowing who the driver might be (impaired driving, expired plates, etc.), I have no problem with then checking out their identity and dragging them in for whatever might be out there.

However, it seems as if the typical haul for the night here in C-bus is 1-2 drunks, and a couple dozen for outstanding warrants after their ID's are checked out without any other reason for being stopped. It amounts to a de facto police checkpoint, with which I have HUGE problems.
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Jun 19, 2014 6:06pm
Cat Food Flambe';1628024 wrote:I have no problems with busting drunk/stoned drivers. If the actual "Please pull over, Sir" situations result from conditions that an officer could readily observe without knowing who the driver might be (impaired driving, expired plates, etc.), I have no problem with then checking out their identity and dragging them in for whatever might be out there.

However, it seems as if the typical haul for the night here in C-bus is 1-2 drunks, and a couple dozen for outstanding warrants after their ID's are checked out without any other reason for being stopped. It amounts to a de facto police checkpoint, with which I have HUGE problems.
This. Drunk drivers are Grade A piles of shit, need to be caught, and the penalties should be a lot tougher than they are so that these scumbags actually learn something, but I don't think checkpoints are fair either.
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gut
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Jun 19, 2014 6:07pm
Cat Food Flambe';1628024 wrote: However, it seems as if the typical haul for the night here in C-bus is 1-2 drunks, and a couple dozen for outstanding warrants after their ID's are checked out without any other reason for being stopped. It amounts to a de facto police checkpoint, with which I have HUGE problems.
That's interesting. Can't say I disagree with you. And it begs the question if cops wouldn't arrest more DUI's if the manpower was instead out patrolling for clearly impaired drivers. And I'd think the outstanding warrants is usually "trivial" stuff...those people typically aren't that tough to find if the cops/DA really want to.

All of which really just adds up to a waste of resources and taxpayer dollars, 4th Amendment issues aside.
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Jun 19, 2014 6:24pm
hate it
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Jun 19, 2014 9:42pm
LOL at SB.