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I said earlier in the thread that I like Carson, and I think a lot of Americans would too, as what he says resonates as simple honest truth and common sense...but I wonder if when it comes to specifics, he may fail to measure up in much the same way as Herman Caine did last election.
Jun 8, 2014 8:07am
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HitsRus;1623674 wrote:I said earlier in the thread that I like Carson, and I think a lot of Americans would too, as what he says resonates as simple honest truth and common sense...but I wonder if when it comes to specifics, he may fail to measure up in much the same way as Herman Caine did last election.
LOL Well, if the Mericun sheeple are dumb enough to elect and re-elect an unqualified community organizer as POTUS, I'd like to think they're dumb enough to elect a qualified neurosurgeon.
Jun 8, 2014 8:26am
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If Republicans want their best chance at winning....they would be wise to nominate a ticket with a combination of the following 4:

Paul Ryan
Rob Portman
Brian Sandoval (VP only)
Marco Rubio
Jun 8, 2014 9:54am
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I'm liking Trey Gowdy a lot these days. He has potential.
Jun 8, 2014 1:12pm
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Carson/Martinez = unbeatable.
Jun 8, 2014 1:19pm
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fish82;1623732 wrote:I'm liking Trey Gowdy a lot these days. He has potential.
He has potential but too soon. 2020 maybe.
Jun 8, 2014 5:25pm
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I personally think Scott Walker will win and I hope he does. If not Mitt Romney I hope runs again, he was absolutely jobbed and I think was a terrific candidate. I would love a Walker/McCain ticket but we just need a great leader regardless of party
Jun 8, 2014 6:26pm
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Classyposter58;1623807 wrote:I would love a Walker/McCain ticket ...
McCain????

I'd actually like to see Rand Paul on a VP ticket (figuring he won't win the nomination). But I think he'd overshadow the POTUS in most cases. I like Rand, just not convinced of him as an executive.

I liked Romney, too...and he may have gotten jobbed, but I can't see him winning a second time around because if he couldn't get conservatives to the polls in 2012 why would he be able to in 2016?
Jun 8, 2014 8:04pm
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gut;1623829 wrote:McCain????

I'd actually like to see Rand Paul on a VP ticket (figuring he won't win the nomination). But I think he'd overshadow the POTUS in most cases. I like Rand, just not convinced of him as an executive.

I liked Romney, too...and he may have gotten jobbed, but I can't see him winning a second time around because if he couldn't get conservatives to the polls in 2012 why would he be able to in 2016?
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Jun 8, 2014 8:18pm
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gut;1623829 wrote:McCain????

I'd actually like to see Rand Paul on a VP ticket (figuring he won't win the nomination). But I think he'd overshadow the POTUS in most cases. I like Rand, just not convinced of him as an executive.

I liked Romney, too...and he may have gotten jobbed, but I can't see him winning a second time around because if he couldn't get conservatives to the polls in 2012 why would he be able to in 2016?
Climate has moderated a bit. Following the recession the extremes of both parties kind of emerged as you would expect from such a difficult economic time
Jun 8, 2014 8:42pm
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Classyposter58;1623836 wrote:Climate has moderated a bit. Following the recession the extremes of both parties kind of emerged as you would expect from such a difficult economic time
Maybe. Can't deny his experience, and he's not a clown like Biden.

I just don't want a RINO anywhere near the office. I really thought Romney/Ryan were the moderate conservatives that the times called for. That's why I have reservations with Rand, because if he doesn't soften considerably he would fail.
Jun 8, 2014 9:09pm
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I think Romney's a possibility but it would be a tough sell even to the establishment Repubs and/RINO's who put him in the driver's seat the last time.

His last campaign management was weak on top of having to deal with a media that was so pro-Obama that Romney had no chance of winning out of the chute.

Romney has a "loser" tag attached to him and that will be difficult to overcome.
Jun 9, 2014 5:13am
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I think Romney's a possibility but it would be a tough sell even to the establishment Repubs and/or RINO's who put him in the driver's seat the last time.

His last campaign management was weak on top of having to deal with a media that was so pro-Obama that Romney had no chance of winning out of the chute.

Romney has a "loser" tag attached to him and that will be difficult to overcome.
Jun 9, 2014 5:15am
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believer;1623790 wrote:He has potential but too soon. 2020 maybe.
Yeah, I probably should have clarified that I didn't mean 2016.

Smart money as of this moment would be on Paul or Christie for the nomination.
Jun 9, 2014 9:15am
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I have pretty much given up all hope that an R can win given the numbers in the key states. So many are on the dole and have a vested interest in big government that it is getting to the point, mathematically, that it is almost impossible. Then throw in the blatant media bias that runs interference for the liberals and it is game over. Incredibly sad state of affairs. We'll see what happens this November; on a state by state basis the R's have a good chance to make significant gains, and that is all well and good, but nationally in '16 I don't see it happening. Between those on the dole, the significantly large group of low information voters, and the media, the math gets too large to overcome.
Jun 9, 2014 1:22pm
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That and you still owe 2kool a vasectomy....
Jun 9, 2014 1:55pm
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QuakerOats;1624162 wrote:I have pretty much given up all hope that an R can win given the numbers in the key states. So many are on the dole and have a vested interest in big government that it is getting to the point, mathematically, that it is almost impossible. Then throw in the blatant media bias that runs interference for the liberals and it is game over. Incredibly sad state of affairs. We'll see what happens this November; on a state by state basis the R's have a good chance to make significant gains, and that is all well and good, but nationally in '16 I don't see it happening. Between those on the dole, the significantly large group of low information voters, and the media, the math gets too large to overcome.
This is what I alluded to earlier, and what Romney was refering to with the "47%"...the canoe has flipped and it will be near impossible to right it. I'm not quite as pesimisstic as you as I think if you can get all the opposition together with the right candidates you could pul off a win. But the divisions within the Republicans are deep and you have to find a way to get the libertarians on board.
Jun 9, 2014 2:18pm
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gosh a ruddies rand paul lost two votes in Las Vegas on Sunday
Jun 9, 2014 3:53pm
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Devils Advocate;1624177 wrote:That and you still owe 2kool a vasectomy....

That would not be good for all the takers ...........they need producers like me to provide other producing offspring who will continue to provide the taxes that the takers rely on for their gravy train.
Jun 9, 2014 4:04pm
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isadore;1624210 wrote:gosh a ruddies rand paul lost two votes in Las Vegas on Sunday
Considering the dead vote nearly 100% democrat you are probably right. In fact there are now two new likely Hilary voters in Las Vegas.
Jun 9, 2014 9:26pm
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majorspark;1624312 wrote:Considering the dead vote nearly 100% democrat you are probably right. In fact there are now two new likely Hilary voters in Las Vegas.
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Jun 10, 2014 4:46am
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gosh a ruddies ideology, demography and an occasional shoot out makes all this discussion of Republican tickets a waste of time. They are all losers.
Jun 10, 2014 10:21am
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isadore;1624494 wrote: They are all losers.
Yes, but they're much less of a loser than Clinton or Obama.
Jun 10, 2014 10:33am
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IggyPride00;1623519 wrote:After this country's experience with the Dear Leader the chances of electing another first term Senator with no executive experience this election cycle is exactly nil.
Don't bet on it. I thought his about Obama being re-elected, and we all know what happened with that.
Jun 10, 2014 10:50am
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gut;1624501 wrote:Yes, but they're much less of a loser than Clinton or Obama.
gosh a ruddies that would be your opinion of them, their programs and ideology as you become irrelevant, ideologically and demographically.
Jun 10, 2014 11:32am