Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
May 21, 2014 1:10pm
Sorry, that's just not true.Ytowngirlinfla;1618444 wrote:It's not that hard when you have skills that people want.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 21, 2014 1:10pm
Well let me tell you, it's a bitch. I have a solid job, but no room for growth. So right now I'm looking for the right position, not just anything, and it's been a struggle. Job searching itself is another job and when people harp on "networking" its because it's true. All of my legit leads have come from networking....just waiting for something solid to come my way.thavoice;1618443 wrote:I will give you that. I dont live in the corporate world.
I run a store, am an Army Reservist and since I have free time in the AM I go into a local factory across the street from 6-8AM 4-6 days a week for some extra spending cash on the side.
I've done the random job grind to make ends meet, and you are correct in that sense...it's easy to get a job.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 21, 2014 1:10pm
Aside from the crappy grammar, same here (England) - all part time, and all not worth even responding to. Who is going to live off of 18 hours/week at 10GBP/hour?thavoice;1618445 wrote:Our county has 3.7% unemployment and yet the classifieds are still popping with jobs and see hiring signs are recent places.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
May 21, 2014 1:11pm
I actually know sleeper, and you are way off base. I know he trolls all day long, but he is doing just fine.vball10set;1618447 wrote:No one said it's easy to get a job, but if you're just applying online with no follow up, waiting for your dream job to leap into your lap, you'll end up like sleeper...delusional, living alone, jobless, and telling everyone how to be successful. Hey sleeper, you still claiming to own a Mc D's? :rolleyes:
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 21, 2014 1:12pm
I talked about it another thread but I sold off my share in the franchise, so no, I no longer own part of a McD's franchise.vball10set;1618447 wrote:No one said it's easy to get a job, but if you're just applying online with no follow up, waiting for your dream job to leap into your lap, you'll end up like sleeper...delusional, living alone, jobless, and telling everyone how to be successful. Hey sleeper, you still claiming to own a Mc D's? :rolleyes:
Again, you are absolutely clueless if you think 'following up' has any validity in the job market anymore. This isn't the 1970's.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 21, 2014 1:13pm
Yeah it is.Fab4Runner;1618448 wrote:Sorry, that's just not true.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 21, 2014 1:13pm
You have many who can't work (elderly, disabled) and you have those that don't WANT to work (Obama's free handout/moochers).Ytowngirlinfla;1618446 wrote:While the unemployment rate is low a lot of people dropped out of the work force. Now if those people were actually job seekers then it's a problem.
There are a ton of jobs out there for people who have the skill, and are qualified, to do them. The issue with a lot of the recent grads is that they aren't qualified to do them and many companies aren't looking to hire entry level.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
May 21, 2014 1:15pm
Lol, okay.Ytowngirlinfla;1618455 wrote:Yeah it is.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 21, 2014 1:15pm
"This isn't the 1970's."
What do you mean? Surely anyone can dress themselves correctly, wash their car, walk into any factory, go to the foreman and say "I'm your guy"! And while they are at it marry the cutest girl at the cotillion just by winking at her.
What do you mean? Surely anyone can dress themselves correctly, wash their car, walk into any factory, go to the foreman and say "I'm your guy"! And while they are at it marry the cutest girl at the cotillion just by winking at her.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 21, 2014 1:15pm
Then elaborate. Do you work in healthcare?Fab4Runner;1618457 wrote:Lol, okay.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 21, 2014 1:16pm
Sorry you don't have skills people want. I've never had a problem getting a job. I don't even get out of the military for another 6 months and have a really good paying job in Columbus lined up. Sorry there are plenty of jobs out there for people in the STEM fields.Fab4Runner;1618457 wrote:Lol, okay.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 21, 2014 1:17pm
This x10000. That is the reality.Automatik;1618450 wrote:Well let me tell you, it's a bitch. I have a solid job, but no room for growth. So right now I'm looking for the right position, not just anything, and it's been a struggle. Job searching itself is another job and when people harp on "networking" its because it's true. All of my legit leads have come from networking....just waiting for something solid to come my way.
I've done the random job grind to make ends meet, and you are correct in that sense...it's easy to get a job.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 21, 2014 1:18pm
What field...?Ytowngirlinfla;1618460 wrote:Sorry you don't have skills people want. I've never had a problem getting a job. I don't even get out of the military for another 6 months and have a really good paying job in Columbus lined up. Sorry there are plenty of jobs out there for people in the STEM fields.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 21, 2014 1:18pm
IT/Engineering.Automatik;1618463 wrote:What field...?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 21, 2014 1:20pm
sleeper;1618454 wrote:I talked about it another thread but I sold off my share in the franchise, so no, I no longer own part of a McD's franchise.
Again, you are absolutely clueless if you think 'following up' has any validity in the job market anymore. This isn't the 1970's.
Please continue to validate your position as the board's jester, sleeper, it's entertaining...the 70's??? You better get on your Mac and start applying, buddy, those 20 something year olds are eating your lunch--figuratively, of course.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
May 21, 2014 1:20pm
I have a career. You just love to generalize and assume.Ytowngirlinfla;1618460 wrote:Sorry you don't have skills people want. I've never had a problem getting a job. I don't even get out of the military for another 6 months and have a really good paying job in Columbus lined up. Sorry there are plenty of jobs out there for people in the STEM fields.
My stepfather is insanely skilled, educated and experienced and it took over 70 interviews to finally land the right position with the right company. Very different from finding any old job.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 21, 2014 1:21pm
I'll agree with the networking too. Whether it's through people you know or maybe are connected to on LinkedIn, that's a faster/more effective way to go. I deal with HR professionals every day and, for the most part, most resumes aren't looked at or go in the trash. If you can connect to a direct hiring authority who has some balls (a maverick willing to go against the "you have to deal with HR" mindset), you've won half the battle.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 21, 2014 1:23pm
BINGO!!!BR1986FB;1618468 wrote:I'll agree with the networking too. Whether it's through people you know or maybe are connected to on LinkedIn, that's a faster/more effective way to go. I deal with HR professionals every day and, for the most part, most resumes aren't looked at or go in the trash. If you can connect to a direct hiring authority who has some balls (a maverick willing to go against the "you have to deal with HR" mindset), you've won half the battle.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 21, 2014 1:24pm
And also in the military, correct? Congrats on a solid career path, but just because it's working for you, doesn't mean others struggling to find a career aren't skilled enough. With the skills you've obtained on your current path, you should have an understanding of that.Ytowngirlinfla;1618465 wrote:IT/Engineering.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 21, 2014 1:25pm
If you want to be super picky then of course job searches may not be as easy as "any old job". There is a difference from finding a job in your field and being super picky in finding a job in your field.Fab4Runner;1618467 wrote:I have a career. You just love to generalize and assume.
My stepfather is insanely skilled, educated and experienced and it took over 70 interviews to finally land the right position with the right company. Very different from finding any old job.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 21, 2014 1:28pm
Military wasn't my career path. I already had a bachelors in Computer Engineering when I joined. I specifically joined to get my Master's. Which I did and I'm about to finish my 2nd Bachelors. None which I've had to pay for, other than books. I had more skills when I joined then I probably do now.Automatik;1618470 wrote:And also in the military, correct? Congrats on a solid career path, but just because it's working for you, doesn't mean others struggling to find a career aren't skilled enough. With the skills you've obtained on your current path, you should have an understanding of that.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 21, 2014 1:29pm
I have do have skills people want (Operations specialization at Fisher and now my JD) and I'm having a problem getting a job.Ytowngirlinfla;1618460 wrote:Sorry you don't have skills people want. I've never had a problem getting a job.
Each situation is different it's hard to make blanket statements. At least in the legal field, it's really hard for grads to get a job.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 21, 2014 1:30pm
Which is rare. I remember at the start of my job search I did call to 'follow up' and the nicest response I got was "Send me your resume and I'll forward it on to HR". Most of the time they would just say that all their opportunities are online and if the position matches my qualifications I'll get a notification for an interview.BR1986FB;1618468 wrote:I'll agree with the networking too. Whether it's through people you know or maybe are connected to on LinkedIn, that's a faster/more effective way to go. I deal with HR professionals every day and, for the most part, most resumes aren't looked at or go in the trash. If you can connect to a direct hiring authority who has some balls (a maverick willing to go against the "you have to deal with HR" mindset), you've won half the battle.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
May 21, 2014 1:31pm
Nope. You must have no skills. Sorry, you suck.lhslep134;1618474 wrote:I have do have skills people want (Operations specialization at Fisher and now my JD) and I'm having a problem getting a job.
Each situation is different it's hard to make blanket statements. At least in the legal field, it's really hard for grads to get a job.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 21, 2014 1:31pm
That was my entire point, the "I've got it all figured out because I have a solid job" way of thinking is way off base.
I have a friend who's a nurse, a higher up one and doing very well for himself. He would occasionally bring up that notion.....sorry pal, but not everyone is cut out to start their career working 12s and wiping asses in a hospital.
I have a friend who's a nurse, a higher up one and doing very well for himself. He would occasionally bring up that notion.....sorry pal, but not everyone is cut out to start their career working 12s and wiping asses in a hospital.