lhslep134;1618474 wrote:I have do have skills people want (Operations specialization at Fisher and now my JD) and I'm having a problem getting a job.

Each situation is different it's hard to make blanket statements. At least in the legal field, it's really hard for grads to get a job.

That's fine but the problem is people come out of college with a ton of debt, with a degree that isn't worth the paper it's printed on, then whine they can't find a job.

Automatik;1618450 wrote:Well let me tell you, it's a bitch. I have a solid job, but no room for growth. So right now I'm looking for the right position, not just anything, and it's been a struggle. Job searching itself is another job and when people harp on "networking" its because it's true. All of my legit leads have come from networking....just waiting for something solid to come my way.

I've done the random job grind to make ends meet, and you are correct in that sense...it's easy to get a job.

Networking is definantly huge no doubt about that. While working at my old place I was offered jobs by clients 4-5 times and I usually turned them down until the right one came to be. The more you get your name out there the better.
In taking resume's from people it is quite comical some of their salary demands for an entry level position and the poor spelling and grammar on their resumes.

lhslep134;1618474 wrote:I have do have skills people want (Operations specialization at Fisher and now my JD) and I'm having a problem getting a job.

Each situation is different it's hard to make blanket statements. At least in the legal field, it's really hard for grads to get a job.

Which is only the 6th best Operations program in the country. Man, your skills suck. Stop being so lazy and follow up.

too bad you re not black you can just call the hotline and tell them you are black and get a free job thru AA.

In my current search I'm noticing older, more experienced applicants are willing to take a major cut in salary just to get a job they desire.

The entire process just sucks , I could go on for days.

Ytowngirlinfla;1618446 wrote:While the unemployment rate is low a lot of people dropped out of the work force. Now if those people were actually job seekers then it's a problem.

Every county has a certain percentage of the workforce that have dropped out but it doesnt change the fact it is the lowest in the state which is a very good thing.
There are local places that cannot fill positions and take out ads on billboards.

Gblock;1618482 wrote:too bad you re not black you can just call the hotline and tell them you are black and get a free job thru AA.

Well done.

thavoice;1618484 wrote:Every county has a certain percentage of the workforce that have dropped out but it doesnt change the fact it is the lowest in the state which is a very good thing.
There are local places that cannot fill positions and take out ads on billboards.

Again what kind of positions are these? Minimum wage?

This thread is absolutely infuriating to read.

Its like a thread full of Belly

sleeper;1618475 wrote:Which is rare. I remember at the start of my job search I did call to 'follow up' and the nicest response I got was "Send me your resume and I'll forward it on to HR". Most of the time they would just say that all their opportunities are online and if the position matches my qualifications I'll get a notification for an interview.

It's even rarer if you don't try

Ytowngirlinfla;1618492 wrote:Again what kind of positions are these? Minimum wage?

A number of factory jobs with pretty good pay actually. I know "good pay" is a relative term to each person, and heck each area, but I know people who work at those places and it is good enough to be the breadwinner for their family and live well enough.
I have even heard ads on radio stations that are 35+ miles away.

I graduated in December with one of the top jobs in my industry lined up 6 months prior.i could quit today and probably have a new job next week. I've had multiple recruiters contact me unsolicited. Hope this helps to all you gen y hating douche bags.


But seriously, my opinion on what is important to landing a job out of college: networking is huge (as has been stated). What you chose to major in is extremely important. Akron just announced a cut in about 15 Art programs. Thank god. It wil save a ton of naive kids from going 50k in debt just to get a job flipping burgers out of college. There are too many essentially worthless degrees out there that people are told they should do because "you can be whatever you want to be". I also believe (to an extent), that the location of your school is just as important as the reputation of your school. You should choose a big school near a decent market because companies recruit locally for the most part (exceptions obviously). Real world example- I have met numerous John Carroll grads in my short professional career, but have not met a single Youngstown st, Wooster, mount union, muskingum grad, etc.

It is stupid to make this a generational issue because you have highly motivated people and slackers in any generation. The problem is more political because we've allowed and elected government that rewards the slackers and taxes the productive. Moreover, we've embarked on job killing policies such as ObamaKare which slams small business and stifles hiring. Failure to approve keystone , etc. etc.....for a nation that needs jobs, Washington doesn't seem to be in a hurry to create them.

I thought sleeper was being a bit extreme with his thoughts on boomers, but this thread pretty much confirms what he has been saying.


Thavoice is just fucking clueless. Can't wait for belly's ignorant post.

Don't major in an "-ology" unless you plan on going on to grad or med school.

Pick6;1618504 wrote:I graduated in December with one of the top jobs in my industry lined up 6 months prior.i could quit today and probably have a new job next week. I've had multiple recruiters contact me unsolicited. Hope this helps to all you gen y hating douche bags.


But seriously, my opinion on what is important to landing a job out of college: networking is huge (as has been stated). What you chose to major in is extremely important. Akron just announced a cut in about 15 Art programs. Thank god. It wil save a ton of naive kids from going 50k in debt just to get a job flipping burgers out of college. There are too many essentially worthless degrees out there that people are told they should do because "you can be whatever you want to be". I also believe (to an extent), that the location of your school is just as important as the reputation of your school. You should choose a big school near a decent market because companies recruit locally for the most part (exceptions obviously). Real world example- I have met numerous John Carroll grads in my short professional career, but have not met a single Youngstown st, Wooster, mount union, muskingum grad, etc.

I went to Youngstown State. Honestly most companies don't care about where you get your degree from as long as it's reputable. Especially after you have some experience. I did a lot of hiring when I worked for Publix in their IT department. We never cared where they went to college unless it was an online school.

Networking lends itself much better for some functions than others. If you're in a job that doesn't have external client/vendor facing, then you're pretty much SOL of having much of a grapevine to even learn about hiring managers looking to fill jobs.

Use your network to track down contact info for a hiring manager to send a cover letter to. That's at least as effective as getting a friend-of-a-friend to drop a resume on someone's desk (with the qualification, if they're not an idiot, "I don't know this guy professionally").

like_that;1618508 wrote:I thought sleeper was being a bit extreme with his thoughts on boomers, but this thread pretty much confirms what he has been saying.


Thavoice is just fucking clueless. Can't wait for belly's ignorant post.

Clueless as in how?

Automatik;1618483 wrote:In my current search I'm noticing older, more experienced applicants are willing to take a major cut in salary just to get a job they desire.

Middle-management jobs are the first to go and last to come back (and some never do). And on top of that there aren't promotional opportunities as the recession forced people planning to retire to continue working longer.

like_that;1618508 wrote:I thought sleeper was being a bit extreme with his thoughts on boomers, but this thread pretty much confirms what he has been saying.


Thavoice is just fucking clueless. Can't wait for belly's ignorant post.

This.

This thread is making me lol, and that is very sad.

Networking helps, but seriously (not just serious business) - there are no jobs. Sleeper is right and this should probably be moved to the politics board.

I get dozens of resumes/cvs's a week just for being part of my alumni network. It is a disaster.

like_that;1618508 wrote:I thought sleeper was being a bit extreme with his thoughts on boomers, but this thread pretty much confirms what he has been saying.


Thavoice is just fucking clueless. Can't wait for belly's ignorant post.

If yuo doont have jorb, yuo lasy libarl skum!!!!!

Networking helps, but seriously (not just serious business) - there are no jobs.

That is exactly it in a nutshell. This is a tough job market and those that will succeed do so because of skills and motivation.

-LOL at the notion that 'networking' is something new...what is new is the way and the technology available for doing so. I would expect any motivated Gen X,Y or Millennial to use that to their advantage.
-LOL at anyone who tells you not to "follow up"...absolutely follow up....are you motivated or not? if you are then you will do anything possible that is not immoral or illegal to get the job you want. It may not work all the time, but it never hurts. Companies/businesses want motivated people with employable skills....when you are looking for job/better job, you need to get both points across.
-LOL at the suggestion that small colleges like Mount Union, Muskingum etc aren't as good as bigger schools like Ohio State. Unless your degree is from Harvard, your degree from OSU is worthless unless you are motivated and you have skills/experience.
I know three Mount grads doing very well for themselves, a Mount Vernon grad moving up the line at Smuckers, a guy from Wright State that was top sales for his company, and a fella who first got an associates degree and then transferred to Akron U....now an accountant at a large firm. Meanwhile a friend of mine's son is waiting tables and tending bar at Friday's with his civil engineering degree from tOSU.
What do you think is the difference between these people?

The job market is tough....and when the going gets tough........

Let's face it, some people just don't try very hard, or are just not persistent enough. If it doesn't fall into their lap, or if it doesn't fall into their lap in just the right way for just the right amount, they'll just keep drifting.

HitsRus;1618575 wrote:
Let's face it, some people just don't try very hard, or are just not persistent enough. If it doesn't fall into their lap, or if it doesn't fall into their lap in just the right way for just the right amount, they'll just keep drifting.

That's my roommate in a nutshell.

"Awwwwww I can't find anything, I've been applying!!"

I asked how many applications he sends out a week?
0-5

LinkedIn?
Nope

Making connects through your alumni network?
Nope

Tailoring your resume to specific openings?
Nope

The same for cover letters?
Nope

Making connects through your current free-lance work?
Nope


And there you have it. He's considering bailing on NYC because he can't find a better job, yet on a 1-10 scale his effort is about a 2. I try to talk sense into him, but I'm sure I just sound like the harping roommate that acts like he knows it all. I'm not a knowitall by any means, but I do know what it takes to get a job and sitting back and crying about won't do shit.

Automatik;1618584 wrote:That's my roommate in a nutshell.

"Awwwwww I can't find anything, I've been applying!!"

I asked how many applications he sends out a week?
0-5

LinkedIn?
Nope

Making connects through your alumni network?
Nope

Tailoring your resume to specific openings?
Nope

The same for cover letters?
Nope

Making connects through your current free-lance work?
Nope


And there you have it. He's considering bailing on NYC because he can't find a better job, yet on a 1-10 scale his effort is about a 2. I try to talk sense into him, but I'm sure I just sound like the harping roommate that acts like he knows it all. I'm not a knowitall by any means, but I do know what it takes to get a job and sitting back and crying about won't do shit.

How about speaking with a temp agency as well? LOLFAIL on your roommate.