sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2014 1:54pm
There are DEs that had much better combine results that didn't get drafted. Pretty simple analysis.Mohican00;1615408 wrote:You're reading waay too much into this guy being drafted 7th round vs being an UDFA. The reality is that he was a unanimous AA, SEC co-defensive POY, and first team all SEC before coming out in February - is it too much to think this guy might get drafted by the SEC-hardon NFL?
He's a shit player and will amount to nothing in the NFL, but at least there's evidence to explain why he was drafted versus the media/public backlash nonsense.
Michael Sam had the 2nd worst Bench, the worst Vertical, the worst 3-cone, as well as being in the bottom 7 of the 40 yard dash of all DEs in the draft.
tl;dr: He got drafted because he is gay.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 12, 2014 2:14pm
Combine results versus on-field production.sleeper;1615414 wrote:There are DEs that had much better combine results that didn't get drafted. Pretty simple analysis.
Reminder: Terrell Suggs had 18 reps and ran a 4.84 at his combine.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2014 2:21pm
Which is still better than Sam.Mohican00;1615422 wrote:Combine results versus on-field production.
Reminder: Terrell Suggs had 18 reps and ran a 4.84 at his combine.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 12, 2014 2:28pm
by 1 rep and 7 hundredths of a second. Same position - one is a 7th round pick, the other selected #10 overallsleeper;1615424 wrote:Which is still better than Sam.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 12, 2014 2:30pm
Anyway....
Kenny Guiton to attend Bills camp......hopefully he does well. But if not he's set at Ohio State
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014-nfl-draft/2014/05/35737/kenny-guiton-attend-buffallo-bills-camp
Kenny Guiton to attend Bills camp......hopefully he does well. But if not he's set at Ohio State
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014-nfl-draft/2014/05/35737/kenny-guiton-attend-buffallo-bills-camp
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2014 2:32pm
If Sam makes the team, it will be only because he is gay. He is not a good player.Mohican00;1615427 wrote:by 1 rep and 7 hundredths of a second. Same position - one is a 7th round pick, the other selected #10 overall
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 12, 2014 2:34pm
Perhaps Suggs is just a better football player?Mohican00;1615427 wrote:by 1 rep and 7 hundredths of a second. Same position - one is a 7th round pick, the other selected #10 overall
Just because their physical numbers match, doesn't mean they're the same player/prospect.
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JU-ICE
Posts: 259
May 12, 2014 2:39pm
NFL.com had him projected as a 7th round pick or a priority free agent. Their were guys who had better combine number than him that did not get drafted.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 12, 2014 2:39pm
The SEC defensive POY is so ridiculous, he had half of his sacks in one week....against Arkansas St. and Vanderbilt. At least Gholston really performed at Ohio St. - but I need to stop thinking about him. What a bust.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 12, 2014 2:51pm
This about combine stats not being the be all, end all metric for judging NFL talent. Sure there were players with better combine results than Sam, but he was also an unanimous AA and co defensive POY in the much beloved SEC. My point is that the Rams probably took into consideration his performance his senior year over his lackluster combine.....the same thing that happened to Suggs.SportsAndLady;1615431 wrote:Perhaps Suggs is just a better football player?
Just because their physical numbers match, doesn't mean they're the same player/prospect.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
May 12, 2014 2:51pm
He came out on February 10th according to an article I found. Wouldn't the college awards already have been announced long before he came out?wkfan;1615400 wrote:My question is....was he an All-American because he was gay, or was he not drafted very high because he was gay??
My hope is that he was not drafted very high because he is of average talent....
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 12, 2014 2:53pm
Any word on Philly Brown?Mohican00;1615429 wrote:Anyway....
Kenny Guiton to attend Bills camp......hopefully he does well. But if not he's set at Ohio State
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014-nfl-draft/2014/05/35737/kenny-guiton-attend-buffallo-bills-camp
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 12, 2014 2:55pm
It's a coaches poll.....go figureManhattan Buckeye;1615434 wrote:The SEC defensive POY is so ridiculous
Mohican00
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May 12, 2014 2:59pm
they were. The SEC awards came out in December and I believe the AA awards did as wellfriendfromlowry;1615440 wrote:He came out on February 10th according to an article I found. Wouldn't the college awards already have been announced long before he came out?
signed with the panthers along with Andrew Norwell and MSU's Denicos AllenAutomatik;1615442 wrote:Any word on Philly Brown?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 12, 2014 3:06pm
True, in spite of the fact he'd be better off not being drafted, particularly by a team where his position is the team's area of strength.vball10set;1615413 wrote:Exactly--could you imagine the backlash if he wasn't drafted?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 12, 2014 5:04pm
Had to share this with you all. I was watching the draft with one of my friends. He tries to act like he knows what he is talking about, but the more he speaks the dumber he sounds when it comes to football.
When the Titans drafted Lewan, he told me that they were going to convert him to a linebacker. I told him the Titans did not use their 11th overall pick on a OT to turn him into a linebacker project. He bet me a case of beer that he will be a linebacker by November.
When the Titans drafted Lewan, he told me that they were going to convert him to a linebacker. I told him the Titans did not use their 11th overall pick on a OT to turn him into a linebacker project. He bet me a case of beer that he will be a linebacker by November.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 12, 2014 5:07pm
6'8", 315 lb linebacker. Seems legit!
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MontyBrunswick
May 12, 2014 5:13pm
lol, good one.like_that;1615496 wrote:friends
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 12, 2014 5:25pm
I will just let everyone else read the source of this post, so they can lol at the irony.dlazz;1615500 wrote:lol, good one.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 12, 2014 5:33pm
He also said Robinson is too small to be a tackle lol.Automatik;1615498 wrote:6'8", 315 lb linebacker. Seems legit!
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 12, 2014 5:40pm
Bought teh lulz for me!like_that;1615501 wrote:I will just let everyone else read the source of this post, so they can lol at the irony.
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MontyBrunswick
May 12, 2014 5:44pm
LOL! repslike_that;1615501 wrote:I will just let everyone else read the source of this post, so they can lol at the irony.
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vball10set
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May 15, 2014 8:43am
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 15, 2014 9:36am
Kinda crazy how bad OSUs defense was, yet they still had two first rounders on it.vball10set;1616425 wrote:
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 15, 2014 9:41am
Rumors that Josh Gordon took two drug tests, one falling below the threshold and one slightly above the threshold for marijuana use. Not enough in the system. Believed to be second hand smoke. It's also believed this may be the reason that the league is revamping it's marijuana rules to be less strict. Would make sense that Farmer didn't panic taking a WR, like many wanted him to, and stayed true to his draft board.