56.5% from the field his last 2 seasons...that's just about as automatic as it gets. MJ never hit 54% for any one season. Larry Bird never hit 53% in a season.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1636947 wrote:Yeah, that goes to show that even top players in NBA history had to constantly work to improve their game. LeBron was a poor shooter coming into the league. He's definitely improved that part of his game. Not saying he's automatic or anything, but much improved from 03-04
Me neither. I just don't get why, even assuming we're deadset on trading Wiggins, we wouldn't at least wait to see what we have first.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636974 wrote:I still wouldn't do it
Who said we "can't live without wiggins"? Lol wtf? It's just a stupid fucking move to trade him away. Period.Benny The Jet;1636992 wrote:I don't get why some act like we can't live without Wiggins. The majority of you wanted Embid to begin with. Them this argument that he could be the next LeBron, we already have THE LeBron, let's win now and for the next 5-7 year's, then we'll worry about the future.
We had no clue how Lebron would look in an NBA game. We should have dangled him on the trading block, too, right?bigdaddy2003;1636995 wrote:Here is how I see it. We know how good Love is in an NBA game. We have NO clue how Wiggins will look in a game or how long it will take for him to get over his rookie jitters.
Embiid should be a special player as well, barring injury. The issues I have are, we don't need more offense on this team.Benny The Jet;1636992 wrote:I don't get why some act like we can't live without Wiggins. The majority of you wanted Embid to begin with. Them this argument that he could be the next LeBron, we already have THE LeBron, let's win now and for the next 5-7 year's, then we'll worry about the future.
I had more inkling that LeBron would be special than I do Wiggins. I didn't see anything that special in he, Parker, or Randle. If they keep him and he flops, how will you feel?SportsAndLady;1636998 wrote:We had no clue how Lebron would look in an NBA game. We should have dangled him on the trading block, too, right?
He's extremely athletic, special defender with a solid jump shot. I don't see how he can flop besides injuries or head case. So id feel bad for him but still rather have him over love. He has a chance to be special hof type player. Love will never sniff consideration for the hof.bigdaddy2003;1637002 wrote:I had more inkling that LeBron would be special than I do Wiggins. I didn't see anything that special in he, Parker, or Randle. If they keep him and he flops, how will you feel?
Yeah I bet 👍👍bigdaddy2003;1637002 wrote:I had more inkling that LeBron would be special than I do Wiggins. I didn't see anything that special in he, Parker, or Randle. If they keep him and he flops, how will you feel?
Cleveland would be better with a stretch 4 like Love. You already have your elite PG and Wing in Kyrie and Lebron. Do you need another great wing or the most productive PF in the game who btw can space the floor? If Cleveland starts both Andy and TT there isn't going to be much space on the floor for Lebron and Kyrie to get into the lane. Also, a pick and roll/pop of Lebron and Kevin Love would be absolutely devastating.HighRoller74;1636999 wrote:Embiid should be a special player as well, barring injury. The issues I have are, we don't need more offense on this team.
Love on the Cavs will fill the exact same role bosh did with LBJ and the Heat, only with a few more rebounds. I'd love to have Love, for the right price, however to me giving up Wiggins is too much.
Until love is hurt for 50 games like he always is.robj55;1637008 wrote:Cleveland would be better with a stretch 4 like Love. You already have your elite PG and Wing in Kyrie and Lebron. Do you need another great wing or the most productive PF in the game who btw can space the floor? If Cleveland starts both Andy and TT there isn't going to be much space on the floor for Lebron and Kyrie to get into the lane. Also, a pick and roll/pop of Lebron and Kevin Love would be absolutely devastating.
Sure a stretch 4 would be nice, but not paying Max dollars, and giving up best prospect in 10 years I'll pass on that. As I said before, better trades out their for a stretch 4(Won't kill cap/Depth.)robj55;1637008 wrote:Cleveland would be better with a stretch 4 like Love. You already have your elite PG and Wing in Kyrie and Lebron. Do you need another great wing or the most productive PF in the game who btw can space the floor? If Cleveland starts both Andy and TT there isn't going to be much space on the floor for Lebron and Kyrie to get into the lane. Also, a pick and roll/pop of Lebron and Kevin Love would be absolutely devastating.
He played 77 games last year but yes injury is always a concern. Swap out Kevin Love for Wiggins and Cavs are the favorites to win the title imo immediately. Keep Wiggins and they may not even be the favorite to win the East. I think some have forgotten how good Kevin Love is and how productive he is, pair him with Lebron and Kyrie and he would be incredible. Don't care that he hasn't won either, he put up monster numbers and basketball is a team game. No one wins by themselves. Melo is viewed as a superstar and has only been past the first round twice.Commander of Awesome;1637009 wrote:Until love is hurt for 50 games like he always is.
None of them are Kevin Love, he's the best rebounder in the league and his production is consistent night in and night out. Pairing him with Lebron would re-energize him and give him a fresh start.HighRoller74;1637010 wrote:Sure a stretch 4 would be nice, but not paying Max dollars, and giving up best prospect in 10 years I'll pass on that. As I said before, better trades out their for a stretch 4(Won't kill cap/Depth.)
That's a great point.pmoney25;1637011 wrote:With Wiggins, LeBron doesn't need to worry about guarding the other teams best perimeter player during playoffs. I think that will be huge as LeBron gets older. Jordan had that with Pippen.
Been in the league for 6 seasons, and only played more than 70 games 3 times.robj55;1637013 wrote:He played 77 games last year but yes injury is always a concern. Swap out Kevin Love for Wiggins and Cavs are the favorites to win the title imo immediately. Keep Wiggins and they may not even be the favorite to win the East. I think some have forgotten how good Kevin Love is and how productive he is, pair him with Lebron and Kyrie and he would be incredible. Don't care that he hasn't won either, he put up monster numbers and basketball is a team game. No one wins by themselves. Melo is viewed as a superstar and has only been past the first round twice.
All of his numbers will fall off across the board. For the price to get him/pay him we can find better value.robj55;1637014 wrote:None of them are Kevin Love, he's the best rebounder in the league and his production is consistent night in and night out. Pairing him with Lebron would re-energize him and give him a fresh start.
Lebron is an idiot if he doesn't see the upside of mentoring a Wiggins into a superstar.Benny The Jet;1637032 wrote:If it's true LeBron wants Love there, consider it done I'd say. Only matter of time. What he wants, they're going to make happen. No more Mo Williams or Larry Hughes as sidekicks for him. Gilbert's going to get him what he wants.