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Jul 15, 2014 1:38 PM
SportsAndLady;1636277 wrote:@ChrisMannixSI: One exec on Cavs chance at K-Love w/out including Andrew Wiggins. "No way. If I'm Minnesota, I want Wiggins, Dion Waiters and two No. 1's."

Lol I would end all communication with Minnesota if that is the case.

Love hasn't even gotten to the PLAYOFFS. I know he's really good but you don't mortgage your future for Kevin love.
This should end talks. Let Minnesota rot.
Jul 15, 2014 1:38pm
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Jul 15, 2014 1:39 PM
Another thing to think of, Kevin Love is the best rebounder in the league but also the best outlet passer. Imagine him cleaning the glass and getting the outlet to Lebron on the break, puts a lot of pressure on the defense.
Jul 15, 2014 1:39pm
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Jul 15, 2014 1:40 PM
I'm in the mindset of do what it takes to get Love. I want a championship for a Cleveland sports team. He gives us the best shot at it within the next couple of years. I'm not talking future, but this year and next couple..Kyrie, Love, Lebron > Kyrie, Wiggins, Lebron. Just my opinion though. May regret it 5 years from now, but if it even nets you just 1 championship, well worth it.
Jul 15, 2014 1:40pm
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Jul 15, 2014 1:42 PM
SportsAndLady;1636277 wrote:@ChrisMannixSI: One exec on Cavs chance at K-Love w/out including Andrew Wiggins. "No way. If I'm Minnesota, I want Wiggins, Dion Waiters and two No. 1's."

Lol I would end all communication with Minnesota if that is the case.

Love hasn't even gotten to the PLAYOFFS. I know he's really good but you don't mortgage your future for Kevin love.
Id do it if Kmart is involved. Need to replace the 2 guard void.
Jul 15, 2014 1:42pm
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Jul 15, 2014 1:43 PM
Benny The Jet;1636286 wrote:I'm in the mindset of do what it takes to get Love. I want a championship for a Cleveland sports team. He gives us the best shot at it within the next couple of years. I'm not talking future, but this year and next couple..Kyrie, Love, Lebron > Kyrie, Wiggins, Lebron. Just my opinion though. May regret it 5 years from now, but if it even nets you just 1 championship, well worth it.
This was my mindset right after Lebron returned but Minnesota is just getting ridiculous with their demands.
Jul 15, 2014 1:43pm
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Jul 15, 2014 1:44 PM
BR1986FB;1636288 wrote:This was my mindset right after Lebron returned but Minnesota is just getting ridiculous with their demands.
Yea, I just read that offer after I posted. That's a bit insane.
Jul 15, 2014 1:44pm
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Jul 15, 2014 1:55 PM
SportsAndLady;1636277 wrote:@ChrisMannixSI: One exec on Cavs chance at K-Love w/out including Andrew Wiggins. "No way. If I'm Minnesota, I want Wiggins, Dion Waiters and two No. 1's."

Lol I would end all communication with Minnesota if that is the case.

Love hasn't even gotten to the PLAYOFFS. I know he's really good but you don't mortgage your future for Kevin love.
Well, if Minnesota wants Love to walk away at the end of his contract with them getting nothing whatsoever for him, they should go ahead and make that their demands.
Jul 15, 2014 1:55pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:03 PM
robj55;1636284 wrote:Another thing to think of, Kevin Love is the best rebounder in the league but also the best outlet passer. Imagine him cleaning the glass and getting the outlet to Lebron on the break, puts a lot of pressure on the defense.
I've imagined this with lebron running one sideline and Wiggins running the other .
Jul 15, 2014 2:03pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:05 PM
I will fucking snap if your sources are right ohiobucks.
Jul 15, 2014 2:05pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:06 PM
Heretic;1636293 wrote:Well, if Minnesota wants Love to walk away at the end of his contract with them getting nothing whatsoever for him, they should go ahead and make that their demands.
Love holds the key here. If he's already talked to Lebron (wouldn't be the first time LBJ's gotten together with other players secretly), all Love has to do is tell other potential trade suitors that he won't sign with them long term and he's likely a one year rental. Assuming he'd keep his word about signing long term with the Cavs, it looks like the T-Wolves only have one potential destination (Cleveland) for him thus diminishing their return in the trade.
Jul 15, 2014 2:06pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:11 PM
If I'm trading for Love, you're getting Waiters and a 1.. thats it.
Jul 15, 2014 2:11pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:13 PM
BR1986FB;1636288 wrote:This was my mindset right after Lebron returned but Minnesota is just getting ridiculous with their demands.
It is quite possible that Minnesota is asking so much because they know that the Cavs pitched to LBJ in getting Love and they feel that Clev will now well overpay to be able to show James that they will do what they told them they were going to.
Jul 15, 2014 2:13pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:22 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636301 wrote:If I'm trading for Love, you're getting Waiters and a 1.. thats it.
Then you'd get laughed outta the room.
Jul 15, 2014 2:22pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:33 PM
Benny The Jet;1636286 wrote:I'm in the mindset of do what it takes to get Love. I want a championship for a Cleveland sports team. He gives us the best shot at it within the next couple of years. I'm not talking future, but this year and next couple..Kyrie, Love, Lebron > Kyrie, Wiggins, Lebron. Just my opinion though. May regret it 5 years from now, but if it even nets you just 1 championship, well worth it.
Not sure love = ring. He's a china doll.
Jul 15, 2014 2:33pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:37 PM
lhslep134;1636306 wrote:Then you'd get laughed outta the room.
Thats fine. He's not worth a wiggins and Bennett and picks. Let him go to GS or Chicago.
Jul 15, 2014 2:37pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:43 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636311 wrote:Thats fine. He's not worth a wiggins and Bennett and picks. Let him go to GS or Chicago.
I didn't say that. I only implied you're ridiculous for offering just DW and 1 first
Jul 15, 2014 2:43pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:43 PM
lhslep134;1636306 wrote:Then you'd get laughed outta the room.
Then I will laugh when Love walks away LOL.
Jul 15, 2014 2:43pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:45 PM
like_that;1636313 wrote:Then I will laugh when Love walks away LOL.
I'm confused as to your point. Are you disagreeing that I think it's laughable to only offer DW and a single 1st? Let alone ignoring the fact that trade would be impossible cap-wise.
Jul 15, 2014 2:45pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:45 PM
lhslep134;1636312 wrote:I didn't say that. I only implied you're ridiculous for offering just DW and 1 first
It's not ridiculous when you're about to lose him for nothing.
Jul 15, 2014 2:45pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:48 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636317 wrote:It's not ridiculous when you're about to lose him for nothing.
I don't get where people only assume that it's the Cavs or he walks at the end of the year? You don't think other teams would offer a better deal than Waiters and a 1st even if it's just for a 1 year rental and an outside shot of him signing?
Jul 15, 2014 2:48pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:50 PM
Benny The Jet;1636318 wrote:I don't get where people only assume that it's the Cavs or he walks at the end of the year? You don't think other teams would offer a better deal than Waiters and a 1st even if it's just for a 1 year rental and an outside shot of him signing?
I don't. Chicago already offered better (supposedly). I'm not giving up what they want for Love.
Jul 15, 2014 2:50pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:53 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636317 wrote:It's not ridiculous when you're about to lose him for nothing.
This post is hilarious for 2 reasons:

1) the vast amount of assumptions you're making that are most likely completely wrong; and

2) the fact that we CANNOT do a DW + 1 first for KL without giving up other salaries.


So continue to think you're not being ridiculous, and I'll keep getting a kick outta it.
Jul 15, 2014 2:53pm
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Jul 15, 2014 2:55 PM
lhslep134;1636316 wrote:I'm confused as to your point. Are you disagreeing that I think it's laughable to only offer DW and a single 1st? Let alone ignoring the fact that trade would be impossible cap-wise.
No, but they are delusional if they think they are in the position to get Wiggins. If they find a better trade than what the cavs offered (sans wiggins) then show me.

What can the bulls offer to minny? They would have to give up a nice piece as well.
Jul 15, 2014 2:55pm
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Jul 15, 2014 3:04 PM
Did LeBron sign a 2 yr deal with a player option after this year?

Is so, can he opt out, let the Cavs sign Love to a max deal in offseason, and then the Cavs just sign him to a new deal where they can go over the cap because they have his bird rights??
Jul 15, 2014 3:04pm
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Jul 15, 2014 3:04 PM
lhslep134;1636321 wrote:This post is hilarious for 2 reasons:

1) the vast amount of assumptions you're making that are most likely completely wrong; and

2) the fact that we CANNOT do a DW + 1 first for KL without giving up other salaries.


So continue to think you're not being ridiculous, and I'll keep getting a kick outta it.

You're missing the point. You're not giving Minnesota anything worthwhile for love when he's got a year left on his contract. Especially what they want.
Jul 15, 2014 3:04pm