Laley23;1636327 wrote:Did LeBron sign a 2 yr deal with a player option after this year?

Is so, can he opt out, let the Cavs sign Love to a max deal in offseason, and then the Cavs just sign him to a new deal where they can go over the cap because they have his bird rights??

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636328 wrote:You're missing the point. You're not giving Minnesota anything worthwhile for love when he's got a year left on his contract. Especially what they want.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636328 wrote:You're missing the point. You're not giving Minnesota anything worthwhile for love when he's got a year left on his contract. Especially what they want.

sleeper;1636331 wrote:Especially the #1 overall pick before he's even played a game, which has never happened in the NBA history. Love isn't worth that, Lebron/KD may be the only players worth Wiggins.

Commander of Awesome;1636335 wrote:LA

lhslep134;1636338 wrote:Seriously? Even after I posted last page how (**relatively**) inefficient he is in the post? I would not do that trade. LA is awesome, but not in the same category as the others you named.

KB0938;1635984 wrote:I dont think being a stretch 4 makes him any less effective though

lhslep134;1635989 wrote:Well it does when he ranks near the bottom 100 in FG% on the shots when he's close to the basket, IMO. Inability to play efficiently inside is a big negative for me when talking about power forwards and centers who spend most of their time outside the paint.

http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingShooting.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=100&sortField=FGP_CLOSE&sortOrder=DES&filters=PTS_CLOSE*GE*1.75&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

Commander of Awesome;1636335 wrote:I was having this convo with a friend earlier. I would only trade Wiggins for LBJ, KD, Russell Westbrook, LA, and maybe Davis depending on health.

lhslep134;1636340 wrote:COA this is the post I'm referring to

Commander of Awesome;1636339 wrote:Prob right, just the names that came up in the convo.

ohiobucks1;1636348 wrote:Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN
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lhslep 134;1636345 wrote:Gotcha. Now you got me thinking. I would do LBJ, KD, Davis, Drummond, and maybbbbbbee Cousins.

lhslep134;1636329 wrote:No. For them to get his cap hold off of the books, they'd have to renounce his bird rights.

ohiobucks1;1636348 wrote:Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN
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Laley23;1636355 wrote:I know S&L watched the most of Wiggins last year. But, outside of him, maybe only Az watched him more than I did. No way do you give him up for Love. Just no way. He was a gamechanged in college without even "having a good year". I posted the #s next to Parker before, and Wiggins was considered a letdown...He has a game for the NBA, and a ceiling that is surpassed by only KD and LeBron at the moment. If he is what we think, he will be the 3rd best player in the game in 4 years...if not sooner.

Laley23;1636355 wrote:I know S&L watched the most of Wiggins last year. But, outside of him, maybe only Az watched him more than I did. No way do you give him up for Love. Just no way. He was a gamechanged in college without even "having a good year". I posted the #s next to Parker before, and Wiggins was considered a letdown...He has a game for the NBA, and a ceiling that is surpassed by only KD and LeBron at the moment. If he is what we think, he will be the 3rd best player in the game in 4 years...if not sooner.

robj55;1636357 wrote:He could be that good certainly, but I think people are overrating him a bit in terms of expectations. He's a sensational athlete and a very good defender but his handle is suspect and his jump shot needs a lot of work, he shoots a knuckle ball. Playing with Lebron would erase all the questions I have about him being an elite player when it comes to creating offense, which you have to do as an elite player.

SportsAndLady;1636360 wrote:Rob no offense but your opinion on wiggins is incredibly retarded and no one takes it serious. Your credibility is completely shot.

He shoots a knuckleball? Where do you come up with this shit?

Laley23;1636352 wrote:Gotcha.

lhslep134;1636363 wrote:Here's what I keep coming back to with Wiggins: he's been considered the best prospect since Lebron since he was what, 14? And what has he done to shed that label, exactly? IMO he hasn't done anything. He played in a system in college that wasn't designed around one or two people (ala Duke's offense around Parker + Hood), and again, didn't do anything to make me question his ceiling.

Now we want to trade the best propect since Lebron? Nah, I'm cool on that.