ZWICK 4 PREZ;1635892 wrote:Any one feel Cleveland would be better off long term to not trade for Love? Yeah you'll have to pay him more next year, but I don't want to lose the guys for him.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1635892 wrote:Any one feel Cleveland would be better off long term to not trade for Love? Yeah you'll have to pay him more next year, but I don't want to lose the guys for him.

sleeper;1635896 wrote:I actually don't want to trade for Love. I like the team that we have right now. Plus I think the Wolves are in a tough spot and will either lose Love for free(which the Cavs could sign if Lebron opts out and re-ups) or trade him for peanuts.

Benny The Jet;1635907 wrote:I feel like if we drag our feet though,someone else will swipe in and get him. It's not like it's the Cavs or nothing for him.

Classyposter58;1635928 wrote:Lets not forget though, Kevin Love is the best PF in the NBA. It's not like he's just some good player, he's an All-NBA talent

Commander of Awesome;1635929 wrote:He can't stay healthy and doesn't play def. I'll take several PFs over him. Still a great player but not best in the association.

Laley23;1635939 wrote:He is not the best PF in the league.

Commander of Awesome;1635929 wrote:He can't stay healthy and doesn't play def. I'll take several PFs over him. Still a great player but not best in the association.

Laley23;1635939 wrote:He is not the best PF in the league.

lhslep134;1635944 wrote:He's not the PF I'd want on my team, but he's got a pretty good argument that he's the best.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&qual=&c1stat=ws&c1comp=gt&c1val=5&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws

#1 PF in win shares. Now obviously without looking the response is: duh, most of that will be offensive win shares. Well he was 11th among F-C (including SF's) in defensive win shares. Hmm.

That doesn't completely mesh with the whole "he doesn't play D" narrative. At the least, it suggests he plays decent D.

Laley23;1635946 wrote:I would just take a few guys ahead of him. Mostly because of the injury factor and the fact he isn't really a post up player.

Commander of Awesome;1635945 wrote:Yes it does. I'm interested in this and will dig into it tonight if I have time. Always fascinating with advanced stats tell a different narrative than what I think I see. Thanks for sharing.

Laley23;1635951 wrote:I'd take someone like West.

lhslep134;1635954 wrote:The age thing is that got me with West. He was awesome for Indiana, especially taking over in the playoffs. But not for our team going forward at 33.

Commander of Awesome;1635958 wrote:Anyone interested in Elton brand? Saw his name floating around twitter.

Laley23;1635956 wrote:Oh im only speaking of this year. No way I take West moving forward over Love.

mucalum49;1635964 wrote:Here's a list of free agent centers/power forwards. Pretty slim pickings.

http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/centers_2014.htm

http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/power_forwards_2014.htm

Kevin Seraphin is a Rich Paul agent but also an RFA. We'd probably get matched for whatever we could offer him. But he'd be a decent defensive big. I'd take a flyer on Okafor being healthy, but again, he'll likely get a (slightly) bigger deal than the minimum.