Laley23;1631709 wrote:DeMarcus Cousins is a headcase who doesnt yet know how to win...will he get there? Who knows. The talent is definitely there to be a star though.

HelloAgain;1631710 wrote:Duncan
Pts - 15
Reb - 10
Ast - 2
FG % 490

Cousins
Pts - 23
Reb - 12
Ast - 3
FG % - .500

What is Cousins doing that is counter-productive to winning when compared with Duncan? Other than being on a team with shit teammates and a sub par coach?

Duncan is the best PF/C of all-time, but Cousins is better at this moment. No real debating that to anyone that's watched both play this past season.

Commander of Awesome;1631711 wrote:FIFY. People forget all the years Duncan played Center after the Admiral left. He even played Center quite a bit this past season with Splitter on the bench. He was skilled enough to play both, and played both quite a bit.Maybe just call him a big?

HelloAgain;1631712 wrote:True

Don't want my argument to seem like I'm detracting from Duncan at all. He's the best PF ever, and to be as effective as he is at his age is possibly his greatest accomplishment of all. But I think the fact the Spurs really don't have a single player I'd classify as a "star" makes their success all the more impressive, and diminshes the argument that super teams are necessary because you can't win without multiple "stars" in today's NBA.

Laley23;1631713 wrote:You seriously dont consider Parker a star?

Commander of Awesome;1631716 wrote:This is a Cavs thread, DGAF about Tim Duncan in here.

Buddy of mine said he thinks Cavs go after Gordan Hayward from Utah to play the 2/3 with Wiggins playing the other postion and Dion going to the bench. Depending on the contract, I wouldn't QQ.

gport_tennis;1631718 wrote:Gordan Hayward will get a max or close to Max deal

HelloAgain;1631717 wrote:I think you have to start considering a lot of PG's stars if Parker is one.

Even so, that would give them one "star" not multiple.

Commander of Awesome;1631721 wrote:A max for him? Yikes. Good player, but don't think he's worth a max. Maybe I'm wrong though, barely watched any Jazz games this past season.

lhslep134;1631722 wrote:Parker is a star PG. A good amount of PG's are stars.

Ginobili is also a star, he's arguably the 2nd best SG in the game.

SportsAndLady;1631725 wrote:I would love Gordon Hayward in Cleveland. I think he's a stud. He was on my fantasy team so I watched quite a bit of jazz games last year.

Commander of Awesome;1631727 wrote:Wow, 2 conflicting reports. Rob won't know which position to take now. I'll wait for my judgement on Hayward until I hear from Robdynasty1998, God's gift to the OC NBA threads.

Commander of Awesome;1631724 wrote:Harden, Kobe, Klay Thompson, Beal were 4 SGs off the top of my head I'd rather have then Ginobili.

Commander of Awesome;1631724 wrote:Harden, Kobe, Klay Thompson, Beal were 4 SGs off the top of my head I'd rather have then Ginobili.

Commander of Awesome;1631727 wrote:Wow, 2 conflicting reports. Rob won't know which position to take now. I'll wait for my judgement on Hayward until I hear from Robdynasty1998, God's gift to the OC NBA threads.

robj55;1631756 wrote:Bradley Beal but no Wade, smh.

SportsAndLady;1631761 wrote:Wade sucks. Drop it.