Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Apr 9, 2014 10:49pm
                            
                        
                                Lets stop protecting politians and make them live in the real world... Maybe just maybe they get a clue..
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 12:05am
                            
                        This thread is about a high school stabbing, not protecting politicians. If you'd like to discuss protecting politicians, make a thread about that.Belly35;1603407 wrote:Lets stop protecting politians and make them live in the real world... Maybe just maybe they get a clue..
Says the guy who ignored the request for clarification on his half-ass, unreasonable plan.QuakerOats;1603330 wrote:When are so dim and offer nothing, you call names.
Good luck.
                                        
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                                                                MontyBrunswick
                                                                    
                                Apr 10, 2014 8:37am
                            
                        He didn't say anything about politicians. He was talking about politians, which I can only assume is a crossbreed of pelicans and politicians.friendfromlowry;1603422 wrote:This thread is about a high school stabbing, not protecting politicians. If you'd like to discuss protecting politicians, make a thread about that.
                                        
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                                                                raiderbuck
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 9:26am
                            
                        
                                Not to be mean or anything...but, how does one kid stab 20 people?
                            
                        Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 9:29am
                            
                        They where textingraiderbuck;1603477 wrote:Not to be mean or anything...but, how does one kid stab 20 people?
Devils Advocate
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 10:38am
                            
                        But but but Obama dammit!friendfromlowry;1603422 wrote: Says the guy who ignored the request for clarification on his half-ass, unreasonable plan.
Heretic
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 11:59am
                            
                        When you prove to be intelligent enough to deserve more than simple insults, you'll get more. Until then, continue being the butthurt, blindly partisan, clueless dolt you've been for however many years you've been inflicted on this world like an annoying boil on its posterior.QuakerOats;1603330 wrote:When you are so dim and offer nothing, you call names.
Good luck.
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                                Apr 10, 2014 1:27pm
                            
                        
                                Yeah.... What he said.
                            
                        TedSheckler
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 1:59pm
                            
                        With a knife.raiderbuck;1603477 wrote:Not to be mean or anything...but, how does one kid stab 20 people?
                                        
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                                                                QuakerOats
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 2:48pm
                            
                        
                                Ban knives.
                            
                        Devils Advocate
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 3:23pm
                            
                        No. GIVE THE TEACHERS GUNS!QuakerOats;1603719 wrote:Ban knives.
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 3:32pm
                            
                        
                                Let's say we do let teachers have weapons.
It goes without saying they will have to be very, very well trained.
I. You will need to have a good number of them armed. Schools are big, have many different wings in them so you will need alot of them to be armed.
2. I imagine the weapons will need to be locked in a safe. No way they will be allowed to be carried as a student could overpower them for the weapon. A chance a student gets the key, or finds the combination or whatever, when the teacher leaves their keys in the desk or whatever. It could very easily happen.
3. A teacher gets the weapon and starts to engage an active shooter. Shooting isnt as easy as it looks in the movies. The teacher is going to be scared and nervous as hell, and just as good a chance he/she kills innocent kids as well.
There isnt an easy answer to it. I am all for people being able to carry weapons, CCw and the like. I just dont think it would really stop, slow down, or deter the shootings. We are talking about thousands and thousands of buildings with millions of kids. There is no way they will get enough able bodies teachers to be able to make it effective.
I still believe that if schools would go to this, that a weapon in a classroom would be used in some sort of attack before it would stop an attack.
                        It goes without saying they will have to be very, very well trained.
I. You will need to have a good number of them armed. Schools are big, have many different wings in them so you will need alot of them to be armed.
2. I imagine the weapons will need to be locked in a safe. No way they will be allowed to be carried as a student could overpower them for the weapon. A chance a student gets the key, or finds the combination or whatever, when the teacher leaves their keys in the desk or whatever. It could very easily happen.
3. A teacher gets the weapon and starts to engage an active shooter. Shooting isnt as easy as it looks in the movies. The teacher is going to be scared and nervous as hell, and just as good a chance he/she kills innocent kids as well.
There isnt an easy answer to it. I am all for people being able to carry weapons, CCw and the like. I just dont think it would really stop, slow down, or deter the shootings. We are talking about thousands and thousands of buildings with millions of kids. There is no way they will get enough able bodies teachers to be able to make it effective.
I still believe that if schools would go to this, that a weapon in a classroom would be used in some sort of attack before it would stop an attack.
BRF
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 4:34pm
                            
                        
                                OK, Devils Advocate……..I repped that comment about me.  Pretty funny.
I am surprised that this kind of attack hasn't happened before. Somebody armed with knives and running full speed (old Indian tactic running out of the forest and past the soldiers marching in formation) can do a lot of damage and be gone before anyone has time to react.
Kudos to the assistant principal.
                        I am surprised that this kind of attack hasn't happened before. Somebody armed with knives and running full speed (old Indian tactic running out of the forest and past the soldiers marching in formation) can do a lot of damage and be gone before anyone has time to react.
Kudos to the assistant principal.
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                                Apr 10, 2014 4:34pm
                            
                        
                                Maybe the teachers need knives? Just a thought. Guns and pitbulls kill people, knives just make sammiches and wound. (occasional fatality)
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 6:51pm
                            
                        So it'd be you and maybe a few other capable guys. Hopefully one of you would be in the right place at the right time? Hell in our old high school I don't think there was one male teacher on the third floor. Dlazz will have to confirm this.ccrunner609;1603785 wrote:I would be a good candidate for this. Already have ccw. Have had a gun in my hand since i was 7. All these people thinking the average. Old lady teacher woukd be packing is funny.
                                        
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                                                                MontyBrunswick
                                                                    
                                Apr 10, 2014 6:54pm
                            
                        I believe you are correct.friendfromlowry;1603787 wrote:So it'd be you and maybe a few other capable guys. Hopefully one of you would be in the right place at the right time? Hell in our old high school I don't think there was one male teacher on the third floor. Dlazz will have to confirm this.
BRF
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 10:10pm
                            
                        So you just confirmed to me that you are co-asshole bro's.dlazz;1603788 wrote:I believe you are correct.
danke.
                                        
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 10:29pm
                            
                        Like you and Belly?BRF;1603846 wrote:So you just confirmed to me that you are co-asshole bro's.
danke.
BRF
                                                                            
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                                Apr 10, 2014 10:32pm
                            
                        Boom Mofo!friendfromlowry;1603853 wrote:Like you and Belly?