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MontyBrunswick
Mar 17, 2014 2:04pm
MB still has no idea how to quote.Manhattan Buckeye;1592080 wrote:"But when every popular social gathering is turned into an opportunity for them to promote their view"
To be fair, most folks want to be left alone. Not everybody wants to be the "Jason Collins pioneer" that cheated on his girlfriend for years (and I'm sure she's had every STD test done as a result), and they deserve respect and privacy. I understand the frustration that a guy that acted badly is lauded for his behavior, and I agree that the political movement has gone too far - but the supermajority of gay people don't care and just want to live their lives.
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Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Mar 17, 2014 2:11pm
We disagree because we disagree on thavoice's intent/meaning/etc. when he uses the word normal. I do not find it benign, whereas my use of "the norm" absolutely is. #disagreeCon_Alma;1592082 wrote:I'm not sure we disagree!!!!! I'm just trying to understand your concern. You have both stated it's not the norm but you don't like that fact that he expressed it...even though you agree with him.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Mar 17, 2014 2:16pm
I haven't suggested that's not thevoice's intent nor that I agree with it. I haven't said much at all about the voice other than he was speaking about sexual orientation. What I have done is ask you questions regarding your statement that it's not normal. It surprised me a little that you would say that, benign or not.
Nothing more.
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pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Mar 17, 2014 2:18pm
The definition is attraction to pre pubescent children. An ephebophile is post pubescent. Hope that helpsernest_t_bass;1592032 wrote:What do you consider pedophilia, though? I mean, a woman's "body" is ready to reproduce (science) once she menstruates. So, is pedophilia sexual relations before menstruation? Society would label someone a pedophile if they were having relations with someone who is well past menstruation, however not of the "legal" age.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Mar 17, 2014 2:19pm
George Takei actually posted about this and I read a lot of the responses from I assume a good amount of gay men and women and they mostly agreed that this parade wasn't the time nor place to promote the gay agenda.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Mar 17, 2014 2:22pm
As for the parade. Seems like they are fair across the board on the rule. So I dont see any need for this to be a story.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 17, 2014 2:26pm
I only do it when it is necessary. Nothing wrong with being gay/lesbian - ask my father in law. Something very wrong with forcing your beliefs and actions on others.dlazz;1592084 wrote:MB still has no idea how to quote.
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Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Mar 17, 2014 2:30pm
When I say it, I say it in the same way that's it's not the norm to have the traits I listed in a previous post. Hair color, eye color, etc. Those things are not the norm, but I do not consider the people who have them to be abnormal or wrong. They are NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS with red hair or blue eyes, etc. That's it. He said normal PEOPLE, not the norm when it comes to sexual orientation, as in gays are not NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.Con_Alma;1592088 wrote:I haven't suggested that's not thevoice's intent nor that I agree with it. I haven't said much at all about the voice other than he was speaking about sexual orientation. What I have done is ask you questions regarding your statement that it's not normal. It surprised me a little that you would say that, benign or not.
Nothing more.
I actually can't even believe I am still discussing it. I am not super offended or even upset. I take DO issue with someone saying gay people are not normal people, but I choose to not be offended about almost all things in life. I wish my sister was seen as a normal/equal and was treated justly and fairly by everyone, but that's as far as it goes.
As for the parade, I think it is silly that the LGBTQ community chose to make an issue of this.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 17, 2014 2:33pm
but the supermajority of gay people don't care and just want to live their lives
It always the militant of a movement that does this, with the help of the sensationalist media, that will give them all the camera time they want.George Takei actually posted about this and I read a lot of the responses from I assume a good amount of gay men and women and they mostly agreed that this parade wasn't the time nor place to promote the gay agenda.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 17, 2014 3:10pm
"was seen as a normal/equal and was treated justly and fairly by everyone"
Perfectly positioned (sorry Dlazz for not replying correctly, walking the dog). It should be this way, people should be treated with dignity and respect in public accommodations. No one should judge. On the other hand no one should judge others, and if a person doesn't like gay marriage, or want to cater to them, that should also be fine. The vast majority of the gay/lesbian people likely agree with this, it is the small percentage of noisy jerks that make things complicated.
Perfectly positioned (sorry Dlazz for not replying correctly, walking the dog). It should be this way, people should be treated with dignity and respect in public accommodations. No one should judge. On the other hand no one should judge others, and if a person doesn't like gay marriage, or want to cater to them, that should also be fine. The vast majority of the gay/lesbian people likely agree with this, it is the small percentage of noisy jerks that make things complicated.
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
Mar 17, 2014 4:17pm
I think Guinness beer is my new beer .
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
Mar 17, 2014 4:19pm
agreethavoice;1591932 wrote:Gay certainly is NOT normal at all.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 17, 2014 9:59pm
C'mon....how is some dude in assless chaps with his buttcheeks painted green NOT a celebration of St. Pat's day?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 18, 2014 1:38pm
fish82;1591874 wrote:Gay Rage is the most powerful force on the planet right now.
Bingo. The non-stop media blitz is getting sickening. I really wish they would stop force feeding society on this topic; we really don't give a shit what 2 people do behind closed doors. Hijacking the St. Patrick's Day Parade and trying to turn it into something it isn't (just like marriage) is idiotic.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 18, 2014 2:10pm
By the way, gay chef hired by Bush, now ousted by Moochelle obama
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/18/white-house-pastry-chef-resigns-i-dont-want-to-demonize-cream-butter-sugar-and-eggs/
The radical Left's war on butter, sugar and cream continues ................... LOL
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/18/white-house-pastry-chef-resigns-i-dont-want-to-demonize-cream-butter-sugar-and-eggs/
The radical Left's war on butter, sugar and cream continues ................... LOL
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 18, 2014 2:43pm
LOL, c'mon, the guy quit because he didn't want to prepare a healthier menu.QuakerOats;1592569 wrote:By the way, gay chef hired by Bush, now ousted by Moochelle obama
It's probably a minor miracle our First Families don't all gain 10+ lbs a year.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 18, 2014 2:43pm
And being gay has nothing at all to do with anything.QuakerOats;1592569 wrote:By the way, gay chef hired by Bush, now ousted by Moochelle obama
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/18/white-house-pastry-chef-resigns-i-dont-want-to-demonize-cream-butter-sugar-and-eggs/
The radical Left's war on butter, sugar and cream continues ................... LOL
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 18, 2014 2:50pm
Exactly --- except the writer just HAD to put it in there, as though it was relevant. Just like mentioning how many gays marched in the St Paddys parade ---- BFD
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Mar 18, 2014 8:54pm
What's an Irish gay called? ...a bag piper.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 18, 2014 9:16pm
Stupid ass mother fucking joke.Tiernan;1592776 wrote:What's an Irish gay called? ...a bag piper.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Mar 18, 2014 9:24pm
DGAF doucher
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 20, 2014 4:46pm
OK.Fab4Runner;1592098 wrote:When I say it, I say it in the same way that's it's not the norm to have the traits I listed in a previous post. Hair color, eye color, etc. Those things are not the norm, but I do not consider the people who have them to be abnormal or wrong. They are NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS with red hair or blue eyes, etc. That's it. He said normal PEOPLE, not the norm when it comes to sexual orientation, as in gays are not NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.
I actually can't even believe I am still discussing it. I am not super offended or even upset. I take DO issue with someone saying gay people are not normal people, but I choose to not be offended about almost all things in life. I wish my sister was seen as a normal/equal and was treated justly and fairly by everyone, but that's as far as it goes.
As for the parade, I think it is silly that the LGBTQ community chose to make an issue of this.
Maybe I was misunderstood.
When I said not normal I of course meant their conduct, not their hair color or height, etc.
A dude who wants to screw another dude...is not normal.
A chick who wants to screw another chick....is not normal.
More and more people tend to be accepting of gays because they know one, are related to one, and are friends with one and decide to be more accepting of the lifestyle because of the fact a family member/friend is gay. They think 'hey, this person isnt so bad' and then are more accepting of the lifestyle even though it is wrong.
Not so different than those people who are family members/friends with someone who is a crook, or has done alot of bad stuff, and say the person isnt that bad, they just do bad acts.
Any gay may be a good person, but their act of wanting someone of the same sex that is just bad/wrong, and yes...not normal.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 20, 2014 5:31pm
You just compared two people of the same sex being in love and wanting to have relations with each other to a family member who is a crook/murderer/etc.thavoice;1593714 wrote:OK.
Maybe I was misunderstood.
When I said not normal I of course meant their conduct, not their hair color or height, etc.
A dude who wants to screw another dude...is not normal.
A chick who wants to screw another chick....is not normal.
More and more people tend to be accepting of gays because they know one, are related to one, and are friends with one and decide to be more accepting of the lifestyle because of the fact a family member/friend is gay. They think 'hey, this person isnt so bad' and then are more accepting of the lifestyle even though it is wrong.
Not so different than those people who are family members/friends with someone who is a crook, or has done alot of bad stuff, and say the person isnt that bad, they just do bad acts.
Any gay may be a good person, but their act of wanting someone of the same sex that is just bad/wrong, and yes...not normal.
Maybe, just maybe people accept these things because we don't give a fuck what they do in their bedrooms. You aren't going to catch the gayness by allowing them to be happy.
I'm not gay, but I'll be glad when most of your generation dies out so we won't have as much retarded/blind/unjustifiable hate for something that doesn't concern you in the least.
Let's put it this way...If you lived back in the 1800's, you would be that guy who tried to outlaw masterbation because you didn't like it.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 20, 2014 5:48pm
Let's put it this way...If you lived back in the 1800's, you would be that guy who tried to outlaw masterbation because you didn't like it.[/QUOTE]DeyDurkie5;1593735 wrote:You just compared two people of the same sex being in love and wanting to have relations with each other to a family member who is a crook/murderer/etc.
Maybe, just maybe people accept these things because we don't give a fuck what they do in their bedrooms. You aren't going to catch the gayness by allowing them to be happy.
I'm not gay, but I'll be glad when most of your generation dies out so we won't have as much retarded/blind/unjustifiable hate for something that doesn't concern you in the least.
Let's put it this way...If you lived back in the 1800's, you would be that guy who tried to outlaw masterbation because you didn't like it.
No, I compared those people who rationalize accepting bad behavior because they have a family member/friend/acquantaince and know the person and feel they are not a bad person..so since they know them and like them they accept the bad behavior.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 20, 2014 5:56pm
No, I compared those people who rationalize accepting bad behavior because they have a family member/friend/acquantaince and know the person and feel they are not a bad person..so since they know them and like them they accept the bad behavior.[/QUOTE]thavoice;1593746 wrote:Let's put it this way...If you lived back in the 1800's, you would be that guy who tried to outlaw masterbation because you didn't like it.
Bring gay isn't bad behavior you moron