GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 14, 2014 1:35pm
But, but, but...I'm in England! I've traveled the world, and I've never seen dogs tied up ANYWHERE except SE Ohio, West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, and some parts of Virginia!!!LJ;1590411 wrote:Oh shut the fuck up.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 14, 2014 1:36pm
That was helpful.LJ;1590411 wrote:Oh shut the fuck up.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Mar 14, 2014 1:36pm
I'd put down about half of you if I could.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 14, 2014 1:38pm
Just for the record, I said that dogs should be treated with respect, that makes me the bad guy, really LJ!
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 14, 2014 1:39pm
Half of us should? And people gripe about you!Tiernan;1590416 wrote:I'd put down about half of you if I could.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Mar 14, 2014 1:40pm
I'm in late - but one time a chicken attacked me and I hit the thing like a baseball with a 2x4. I've also punched a dog in the head before after being bit.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 14, 2014 1:42pm
It's the way you are going about it. Plus your idea of respect is a little offManhattan Buckeye;1590417 wrote:Just for the record, I said that dogs should be treated with respect, that makes me the bad guy, really LJ!
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 14, 2014 1:45pm
you mean like your message? effing? really?
We are talking about a serious problem, and for the most part it is civil and we get this? Why aren't you banned, or at least use earmuffs.:
Oh shut the fuck up.
-edit we can use earmuffs, you can say anything you want, but the effing, why do it?
We are talking about a serious problem, and for the most part it is civil and we get this? Why aren't you banned, or at least use earmuffs.:
Oh shut the fuck up.
-edit we can use earmuffs, you can say anything you want, but the effing, why do it?
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 14, 2014 1:48pm
OSH;1590281 wrote:I guess I don't see how this is cruel? It may be cruel if he didn't provide a shelter and/or some hay for insulation.
Dogs are animals. Animals have lived in the wild for how many years? I grew up in southeast Ohio (seems like several on here have) and we never once had our dogs in our house or garage during any weather. They were free to roam all the time. They had a pen they could go to if they wanted. As long as the dogs can get out of the conditions through a roof, wall, or something similar, they'll be fine.
I know animals are resilient and have ways of surviving and keeping warm that humans couldn't. Everyone is different, but I think if I'm going to go to the trouble of owning pets, I'm going to at least provide them better conditions than they'd find in the wild anyways. I could understand keeping them outside (with shelter) in the rain, snow, and heat. But when it gets negative zero like it has several times this year, IMO, it's a dick move to still keep them out.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 14, 2014 1:48pm
I deal with animal cruelty constantly. It is a part of my life. From helping with local rescues, to listening to cases that my wife tells me everyday. People like you, who act snobby as fuck, are not who is needed. Calling people rubes because they leave their dog outside is ridiculous. It's about education, not degradation.Manhattan Buckeye;1590426 wrote:you mean like your message? effing? really?
We are talking about a serious problem, and for the most part it is civil and we get this? Why aren't you banned, or at least use earmuffs.:
Oh shut the fuck up.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 14, 2014 1:51pm
Growing up, my parents would try to bring our dogs inside when it was so cold out, and what would they do? Claw the fuck out of the door because they wanted back outside.friendfromlowry;1590431 wrote:I know animals are resilient and have ways of surviving and keeping warm that humans couldn't. Everyone is different, but I think if I'm going to go to the trouble of owning pets, I'm going to at least provide them better conditions than they'd find in the wild anyways. I could understand keeping them outside (with shelter) in the rain, snow, and heat. But when it gets negative zero like it has several times this year, IMO, it's a dick move to still keep them out.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 14, 2014 1:52pm
The effing again, why do you do it?
And anyone leaving their dogs outside in Ohio is cruel.
And anyone leaving their dogs outside in Ohio is cruel.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 14, 2014 1:56pm
Good for you, but you aren't here doing anything about it, so shut the fuck up.Manhattan Buckeye;1590436 wrote:The effing again, why do you do it?
And anyone leaving their dogs outside in Ohio is cruel.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 14, 2014 1:59pm
LJ;1590439 wrote:shut the fuck up.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 14, 2014 2:51pm
I don't have to, you guys ruin for it yourselves. Internet tough guy.LJ;1590439 wrote:Good for you, but you aren't here doing anything about it, so shut the fuck up.
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Mar 14, 2014 3:59pm
Yes dogs are slaves and cows are allowed to roam free......... until it is time to eat them.se-alum;1590156 wrote:Do dogs serve a greater purpose than cattle?
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Mar 14, 2014 4:01pm
Depends on the dog. A Siberian husky will be fine outside just like a wolf will. Dogs live outside all the time in very cold temps.Manhattan Buckeye;1590436 wrote:The effing again, why do you do it?
And anyone leaving their dogs outside in Ohio is cruel.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 14, 2014 4:38pm
LOL @ MB coming back from England to put an end to animal cruelty! Will you be blogging about your crusade? It sounds like something I would like to follow.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 14, 2014 4:44pm
I lived overseas for a good portion of my life, and dogs lived outside all the time. More so than they do in the states. Hate when people think it's not humane to disallow dogs to live inside their homes.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 14, 2014 4:47pm
Depends on the dog and the climate.like_that;1590535 wrote:I lived overseas for a good portion of my life, and dogs lived outside all the time. More so than they do in the states. Hate when people think it's not humane to disallow dogs to live inside their homes.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 14, 2014 5:00pm
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 14, 2014 5:07pm
I can understand if it gets too cold you bring the dog in, but for the most part they all can handle the weather.queencitybuckeye;1590539 wrote:Depends on the dog and the climate.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 14, 2014 6:51pm
...provided they have shelter, food, and water. A dog house with food water and some sort of bedding will be enough for most kinds of weather. The important thing is to know you can be prosecuted if you neglect your animals, so use some common sense. If you are dealing with sub-zero temperatures and wend chills, it only makes sense to give your outdoor pets a little extra help...bring them in or even in the garage or barn. There have benn several cases of animal neglect on the news lately... and most involve having an animal tied up and left unattended.I can understand if it gets too cold you bring the dog in, but for the most part they all can handle the weather.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 14, 2014 6:59pm
I wanted to add this...but for some reason the edit function is not working....
Be particularly careful during the summer months and periods of extreme heat, also. Don't leave your animal unattended in an enclosed vehicle, and make sure they have access to shade and water.
Be particularly careful during the summer months and periods of extreme heat, also. Don't leave your animal unattended in an enclosed vehicle, and make sure they have access to shade and water.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 14, 2014 10:28pm
Yes, you still have to take care of the dog. I wasn't suggesting being a total POS and leaving your dog out there to fend for itself.HitsRus;1590559 wrote:...provided they have shelter, food, and water. A dog house with food water and some sort of bedding will be enough for most kinds of weather. The important thing is to know you can be prosecuted if you neglect your animals, so use some common sense. If you are dealing with sub-zero temperatures and wend chills, it only makes sense to give your outdoor pets a little extra help...bring them in or even in the garage or barn. There have benn several cases of animal neglect on the news lately... and most involve having an animal tied up and left unattended.