mcburg93;1590295 wrote:You can be lulled into a sense of security with your dogs and that is fine. That movie I am talking about had rottweilers, pitt bulls, dobermans, and German shepards barking their heads off and the robbers just walked on in through a window or an unlocked door. The one house they had trouble with that had dogs was a house with poodles. They did not bark but once the robbers were in the house the dogs would not allow them upstairs. They moved around freely downstairs but when they tried to go upstairs the dogs would go after them. It is a good watch and you can be fooled by how mean you think your dog is while you are gone

Manhattan Buckeye;1590245 wrote:"I just find it ridiculous that sheriff department detective was investigating this incident, when they are plenty of unsolved burglaries, and other crimes against humans"

This is a friendly suggestion: think about the type of person that would do that to a dog, and how likely they are committing crimes against humans.

OSH;1590293 wrote:I'm not in southeastern Ohio anymore and I still don't see a problem with it. And, it happens all over the country, not just southeastern Ohio.

Dogs are made for living outside. I forgot that dogs are domesticated and need a 3-bedroom 1.5-bath house with air conditioning and heating. Better make sure they are eating gluten-free and Paleo too. If anything it can be considered cruelty to keep dogs out of their natural habitat. Why should they be cooped up in a house on the couch when they could be outside running around like they are supposed to be? At least our dogs were able to run free wherever and whenever they wanted to. And for 30ish years, I have never heard of a dog, cat, cow, horse, chicken, or any other animal that we had that froze to death because they were outside. We've only had one issue in losing any animals to the weather and that was a couple cows stood under a tree that got struck by lightning (and boy did that smell for days) -- they also had access to a barn, but went to the tree...crazy how that works, doing what they do even with the luxury of a barn.

Like I said, as long as the dogs have an "escape" outside, it's not cruel. If they have a dog house with some straw/hay, they'll be fine. If they have access to-from a barn, they'll be fine. As long as they can get out of the elements, they are doing what they've done for thousands of years.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590299 wrote:Again, the dog isn't trained to attack. It would bother us if he would and expose us to liability. But he goes absolutely nuts if anyone knocks on the door or even approaches the house - that is what he is trained to do. And we're pretty damned sure he does it when we're gone, because he does it when we come to the house - and he sleeps in the same bed with us.

Based on this thread there is more evidence of ignorant and improper dog owners from SE Ohio - that isn't us. It takes a lot of work, dedication and effort to train a dog properly. You don't just put them outside during an Ohio winter with a "wall" to shelter them. It takes months to train them.

Crimson streak;1590316 wrote:Your dog is a ***** stfu. No dog is going to keep anyone out of your house.

se-alum;1590306 wrote:I've put several pets down, and I'm not a threat to commit a crime against a human.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590299 wrote:It takes a lot of work, dedication and effort to train a dog properly. You don't just put them outside during an Ohio winter with a "wall" to shelter them. It takes months to train them.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590301 wrote:"And for 30ish years, I have never heard of a dog, cat, cow, horse, chicken, or any other animal that we had that froze to death because they were outside."

Because they live in barns or coops - did you actually keep your livestock outside?

dlazz;1590286 wrote:Someone doesn't know how to quote.

LOL what a noob

Mohican00;1590370 wrote:something about being on a phone or some shit

Manhattan Buckeye;1590374 wrote:Shut up Mohican, we're talking about a problem with SE Ohio and mistreatment of animals. To the extent a freaking former mod actually started a thread about it - and is too stupid to realize he's on the wrong side of the argument.

Mohican00;1590383 wrote:works now

GoChiefs;1590385 wrote:You're an idiot if you think this is an issue in just SE Ohio.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590391 wrote:It isn't, it is just the one I defend. I agree this happens in West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, and some parts of southwest Virginia. But for my township and county, there isn't any animal abuse tolerated, and I'll come back from England to make sure it doesn't happen.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590374 wrote:Shut up Mohican, we're talking about a problem with SE Ohio and mistreatment of animals. To the extent a freaking former mod actually started a thread about it - and is too stupid to realize he's on the wrong side of the argument.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590396 wrote:It is a laughing matter?

Manhattan Buckeye;1590365 wrote:And I realize it is SouthEast Ohio culture to tie or fence your dog off outside, that doesn't make that culture correct. I've spent too much time defending it to not react negatively when people think it is normal to mistreat animals. It isn't.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590290 wrote:Because it can get cold, and it is cruel. Dogs can live in the wild but they do so in packs. You chain or cage them and it is a different story and unfortunately it happens often in SE Ohio.

Jesus, just when I think Ohio isn't that backwoods or rednecky, I read this and I understand why my wife hates it. I really grew up in the armpit of America with you rubes.

Manhattan Buckeye;1590391 wrote:It isn't, it is just the one I defend. I agree this happens in West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, and some parts of southwest Virginia. But for my township and county, there isn't any animal abuse tolerated, and I'll come back from England to make sure it doesn't happen.