Two objects have been spotted by satellite, Australian Air Force diverted to check it out.

se-alum;1593294 wrote:Two objects have been spotted by satellite, Australian Air Force diverted to check it out.

se-alum;1593294 wrote:Two objects have been spotted by satellite, Australian Air Force diverted to check it out.

Supposedly one is estimated over 78 feet in length. Given the remoteness where they were searching I would guess this is wreckage.

What's interesting is Australia had narrowed down two possible flight paths to search at the end of that southern corridor. Seems like that had to have been based on some other data (satellite, radar, ???) that wasn't publicly available. Makes me wonder if the US knew more about the possible location all along but was reluctant to reveal how they knew.

Although I'm not sure where in relation to that search area this wreckage has been spotted.
EDIT: 1500 miles SW of Perth and in the vicinity of where they were searching.

Manhattan Buckeye;1593048 wrote:Yeah, that's the one. It does make some sense, although not all. Including why the plane rose to 45,000 feet.

I saw this yesterday, and was leaning toward that being the most plausible explanation lacking evidence to support something more unlikely.

But IMO this was pretty well shotdown with confirmed reports (which the US appeared to verify) that the new waypoint was input BEFORE final sign-off and before comms went out. One expert also claimed the deviation was not the specific airport referenced, which if true might put a fairly large hole in the emergency landing scenario.

If you can rule out mechanical failure (which I think the above pretty strongly suggests), then I think the next operating theory to rule out would be murder suicide, especially if the plane is found in the middle of nowhere in the southern Indian Ocean.

I think this is it. I'm hooked to the damn news now and will be up all night. Glad I'm off tomorrow.

I think the pilots turned to this near course as trained after a fire and decompression. The plane then flew on its own till it ran out of fuel here and crashed. But the raise to 45000 ft and reports of below 5000 are baffling?

Fab1b;1593337 wrote:I think this is it. I'm hooked to the damn news now and will be up all night. Glad I'm off tomorrow.

I think the pilots turned to this near course as trained after a fire and decompression. The plane then flew on its own till it ran out of fuel here and crashed. But the raise to 45000 ft and reports of below 5000 are baffling?

Those elevations were only estimates and considered inaccurate, but dramatic deviations could have happened either in a struggle for the plane or because pilots were losing useful consciousness in a depressurization event. If there was some plot to cause hypoxia it's unecessary to climb from cruising altitude...but in a depressurization event, the plane will supposedly automatically descend to below 14k feet (maybe 8k feet?) where the air is "breathable" (commercial cabins are pressurized to air/oxygen levels equivalent to 8k feet).

Then you have the fact that ANOTHER turn had to be made, at some point, from the last known trajectory to head down that southern corridor. Not sure they know when those altitude deviations occurred, and an additional way point could have been programmed in after ACARS and the transponder were shutoff (a turn that might not be initiated until you are far enough offshore from any radar). One expert claimed turbulence could cause a plane to make gradual turns with the fly-by-wire system with the autopilot off, but you're talking @90 degrees from the last known trajectory.

Fab1b;1593337 wrote:I think this is it. I'm hooked to the damn news now and will be up all night. Glad I'm off tomorrow.

Yeah, but now however will I stay awake for all the games tomorrow?

gut;1593339 wrote:Yeah, but now however will I stay awake for all the games tomorrow?

At least for the Buckeyes!

Fab1b;1593337 wrote:I think this is it. I'm hooked to the damn news now and will be up all night. Glad I'm off tomorrow.

I think the pilots turned to this near course as trained after a fire and decompression. The plane then flew on its own till it ran out of fuel here and crashed. But the raise to 45000 ft and reports of below 5000 are baffling?

If the debris discovered is in fact related to the aircraft, this would certainly seem one of the most plausible scenarios at this point.

I want to believe that this all wasn't the result of a suicide. Just put a gun in your mouth and end it. No need to take 238 people with you.

reclegend22;1593341 wrote:If the debris discovered is in fact related to the aircraft, this would certainly seem one of the most plausible scenarios at this point.

I want to believe that this all wasn't the result of a suicide. Just put a gun in your mouth and end it. No need to take 238 people with you.

They might be able to eventually piece all the events together, but the cockpit voice recorder only captures the last two hours...so we will probably never know exactly who is responsible.

gut;1593342 wrote:They might be able to eventually piece all the events together, but the cockpit voice recorder only captures the last two hours...so we will probably never know exactly who is responsible.

That is probably true. That has always perplexed me. Is the technology not there for a black box to record an entire flight? If ultimately nothing is gleaned from the black box that explains the events of that night in any clear detail, then this will probably go down as the greatest aviation mystery in history given the amount of souls on board.

There's always the chance the objects discovered in the water are not related, but it would seem odd for the Australian prime minster to make any comment whatsoever at this time without there at least being some sort of proof of a connection.

reclegend22;1593343 wrote:That is probably true. That has always perplexed me. Is the technology not there for a black box to record an entire flight? If ultimately nothing is gleaned from the black box that explains the events of that night in any clear detail, then this will probably go down as the greatest aviation mystery in history given the amount of souls on board.

No idea why the voice recorder is only 2 hours...probably because it's extremely rare to have a plane fly for hours after pilots die or become incapacitated (you have Payne Stewart's plane, but that doesn't mean every plane in the world would be upgraded as a result). It is very strange - CNN showed the "mechanical/computer" deck of a 777 and it was VERY impressive.

The flight recorder loops for 25 hours (that's the second of the black boxes). So that should tell them exactly what went wrong and what was done, just probably not who.

If this is the wreckage, it's still fairly far from the primary search area...could have been days or weeks (or longer) before spotting that.

Tiernan;1591172 wrote:It sleeps with the fishes. .

once again Tiernan is ALWAYS right.

sportswizuhrd;1593334 wrote:

I would pay more attention to this plane nonsense if Doug Prishpreed were investigating

Tiernan;1593350 wrote:once again Tiernan is ALWAYS right.

If this is it, they are probably dead, not sleeping.

Sounds like it could take DAYS to find this debris they've spotted...CNN is going to be extra painful to watch until then.

This gives Fox News (of which I am actually a devoted fan, BTW) a few more days to pick the mind of the retired colonel who believes the plane is sitting on a runway in the Gaza Strip.

While I still contend the plane could've went north as part of a terrorism or hostage-related hijacking (even though that possibility now appears extremely faint given the alleged debris field discovered), listening to Sean Hannity interview that colonel brought the lulz just because of how serious he was. Hannity said something like, "Now I've known you a long time, Colonel, and you would not say something like this if you didn't have good reason to believe it." Lol.

Well, they had at least 9 days then to land the plane, blow it up (to simulate a crash), then gather up the pieces, load them on a boat and drive them to the middle of nowhere in the south Indian Ocean....and then throw the pieces overboard.

There's absolutely no proof that didn't happen.

reclegend22;1593405 wrote:This gives Fox News (of which I am actually a devoted fan, BTW) a few more days to pick the mind of the retired colonel who believes the plane is sitting on a runway in the Gaza Strip.

While I still contend the plane could've went north as part of a terrorism or hostage-related hijacking (even though that possibility now appears extremely faint given the alleged debris field discovered), listening to Sean Hannity interview that colonel brought the lulz just because of how serious he was. Hannity said something like, "Now I've known you a long time, Colonel, and you would not say something like this if you didn't have good reason to believe it." Lol.

Which Colonel is that? I know a military analyst on WLW 700 said it may be taken by aliens...ha ha.

About FNC....I used to be a huge fan of their's...would watch it ALL the time, but I found found a valuable lessen over time.
When a Democrat is in White House it is very, very difficult to watch FNC. It is non stop bashing to the point it is nauseating. When GW was President they were more of just reporting the news and CNN was all about bashing the President. Watching CNN was very difficult when a R was in the WH.

Now with BHO it seems like CNN is more straight line reporting and FNC is all bashing. I hated it when CNN blamed everything on Bush and the R's, and at that time they would always ridicule CNN and other outlets who would do said bashing, but now the tables have turned and FNC is hard to watch.

BUT...FNC does sex up their ladies alot more than CNN.

Did I hear these satellite images are actually from Sunday? These pieces could be anywhere!

thavoice;1593423 wrote:Which Colonel is that? I know a military analyst on WLW 700 said it may be taken by aliens...ha ha.

I can't remember the colonel's name, but Hannity would've been better off asking a G.I. Joe as to where he thought the plane was.

thavoice wrote:About FNC....I used to be a huge fan of their's...would watch it ALL the time, but I found found a valuable lessen over time.
When a Democrat is in White House it is very, very difficult to watch FNC. It is non stop bashing to the point it is nauseating. When GW was President they were more of just reporting the news and CNN was all about bashing the President. Watching CNN was very difficult when a R was in the WH.

Now with BHO it seems like CNN is more straight line reporting and FNC is all bashing. I hated it when CNN blamed everything on Bush and the R's, and at that time they would always ridicule CNN and other outlets who would do said bashing, but now the tables have turned and FNC is hard to watch.

BUT...FNC does sex up their ladies alot more than CNN.

Yes, they do. I am a big fan. Here they all are: http://www.foxnewsgirls.com/ (I just found this like 10 second ago, it's not a site I visit often lol)

As for the strong left or right views on CNN and Fox depending on who is in the White House, that's just the nature of the beast. It can get overbearing at times, on both sides, without question. I used to watch the O'Reilly, Hannity and Greta block semi-regularly (and still do during election season), but today I only watch The Five and Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld, both of which I DVR every day. As a born-and-raised conservative who is probably more libertarian at heart, I identify a lot with Gutfeld and the guy is hilarious. I'm also a big Tucker Carlson fan and wish he'd replace Sean Hannity, though that will never happen since Hannity is about as big as it gets in the conservative political talk show business.

Neither CNN nor Fox comes close to approaching MSNBC, the most intolerable television channel on cable.

reclegend22;1593453 wrote:
Neither CNN or Fox come close to approaching MSNBC, the most intolerable television channel on cable.

Troll detected

total babe.

reclegend22;1593453 wrote:...would've been better off asking a G.I. Joe as to where he thought the plane was.

Interesting....That's the first I've heard mention of Destro or Cobra Commander possibly being involved.

reclegend22;1593453 wrote:I can't remember the colonel's name, but Hannity would've been better off asking a G.I. Joe as to where he thought the plane was.




Yes, they do. I am a big fan. Here they all are: http://www.foxnewsgirls.com/ (I just found this like 10 second ago, it's not a site I visit often lol)

As for the strong left or right views on CNN and Fox depending on who is in the White House, that's just the nature of the beast. It can get overbearing at times, on both sides, without question. I used to watch O'Reilly, Hannity and Greta block semi-regularly (and still do during election season), but today I only watch The Five and Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld, both of which I DVR every day. As a born-and-raised conservative whom is probably more libertarian at heart, I identify a lot with Gutfeld and the guy is hilarious. I'm also a big Tucker Carlson fan and wish he'd replace Sean Hannity, though that will never happen since Hannity is about as big as it gets in the conservative political talk show business.

Neither CNN or Fox come close to approaching MSNBC, the most intolerable television channel on cable.

Cannot say I have ever watched MSNBC so cannnot comment on them. Check out Fox and Friends first with the two babes they tout out in mini skirts almoste very day. Didnt know Gufeld still did RedEye...didnt know the show was still on as I am not up that late anymore, but loved watching that. They would REALLY sex up the ladies when they came on there. Heck..who knew Patti Ann Browne could look that good).

Just gets nauseating watching FNC now. Sometimes I will tune in and just watch until they bash the President/Dems and then swtich...and it doesnt take long many times