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Feb 17, 2014 7:12 PM
Ironman92;1581766 wrote:I don't think he's QQ about it.....I was just pointing it out.

Though I imagine for $4.8 million he make say heck with the Pro Bowl
Just pointing out that he's a TE regardless of where he lines up. Didn't argue that he was a WR when selected to the probowl, now he's trying to claim he's a TE. Inconsistent arguements.
Feb 17, 2014 7:12pm
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Feb 17, 2014 7:19 PM
It's not about TE or WR, he doesn't want to be franchised at all, understandably.
Feb 17, 2014 7:19pm
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Feb 17, 2014 7:25 PM
I don't really see the big deal about the franchise tag for the players.

The NFL is a series of One Year deals anyway, can understand wanting the security of a couple year deal, but irregardless if you come out and suck/get hurt, they will cut you regardless (Barring a huge signing bonus/cap hit)

At least with the Tag you're getting a high 1 year deal.
Feb 17, 2014 7:25pm
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Feb 17, 2014 7:25 PM
Any word on any Browns targets?

I'd love them to go after Decker.
Feb 17, 2014 7:25pm
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Feb 17, 2014 7:30 PM
ohiobucks1;1581778 wrote:Any word on any Browns targets?

I'd love them to go after Decker.
Agree, to an extent. If the money is right, anyway.
Feb 17, 2014 7:30pm
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Feb 17, 2014 7:33 PM
HighRoller74;1581777 wrote:I don't really see the big deal about the franchise tag for the players.

The NFL is a series of One Year deals anyway, can understand wanting the security of a couple year deal, but irregardless if you come out and suck/get hurt, they will cut you regardless (Barring a huge signing bonus/cap hit)

At least with the Tag you're getting a high 1 year deal.
You lose the guaranteed money you would get with a new contract. Yea, you get a high one year deal, but a career ending injury could cost you tons of money.
Feb 17, 2014 7:33pm
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Feb 17, 2014 7:58 PM
Commander of Awesome;1581774 wrote:Just pointing out that he's a TE regardless of where he lines up. Didn't argue that he was a WR when selected to the probowl, now he's trying to claim he's a TE. Inconsistent arguements.
I never said he was QQ (maybe you saw it elsewhere).....I just found it interesting the difference in the two and was unaware how often he lined up as a WR
Feb 17, 2014 7:58pm
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Feb 17, 2014 8:43 PM
se-alum;1581782 wrote:You lose the guaranteed money you would get with a new contract. Yea, you get a high one year deal, but a career ending injury could cost you tons of money.
If they would retire due to injury, they wouldn't get the money anyway. But I understand the risk, but it isn't like they get paid league minimum with the franchise tag, in most cases its more than they would've earned on the open market, barring a huge bonus.
Feb 17, 2014 8:43pm
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Feb 17, 2014 9:42 PM
HighRoller74;1581807 wrote:If they would retire due to injury, they wouldn't get the money anyway. But I understand the risk, but it isn't like they get paid league minimum with the franchise tag, in most cases its more than they would've earned on the open market, barring a huge bonus.
Pretty sure there are usually injury guarantees in that guaranteed money, probably for the first 2-3 years of the contract, depending on contract length. No matter what happens, they will get the money for those guaranteed years, unless that player would do something stupid off the field to get hurt, like Kellen Winslow.
Feb 17, 2014 9:42pm
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Feb 18, 2014 10:22 AM
se-alum;1581832 wrote:Pretty sure there are usually injury guarantees in that guaranteed money, probably for the first 2-3 years of the contract, depending on contract length. No matter what happens, they will get the money for those guaranteed years, unless that player would do something stupid off the field to get hurt, like Kellen Winslow.
I know the non guarenteed contracts are huge when the CBA comes around. The $$ isnt guarenteed. I know at times teams come up with an injury settlement.

I would be kinda mad if I was Graham and got the tag at the TE rate.

On a stupid note.....whenever he is mentioned I always think of Moonlight Graham and say it in James Earl Jones' voice.............
Feb 18, 2014 10:22am
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Feb 18, 2014 10:47 AM
thavoice;1581929 wrote:I know the non guarenteed contracts are huge when the CBA comes around. The $$ isnt guarenteed. I know at times teams come up with an injury settlement.

I would be kinda mad if I was Graham and got the tag at the TE rate.

On a stupid note.....whenever he is mentioned I always think of Moonlight Graham and say it in James Earl Jones' voice.............
Drew Brees has a 5yr/100M contract with 60M guaranteed no matter what, even if he had broken his neck in the first game of the new contract. Stars get those kind of contracts, of course position players get less of a guarantee.
Feb 18, 2014 10:47am
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Feb 18, 2014 10:49 AM
se-alum;1581939 wrote:Drew Brees has a 5yr/100M contract with 60M guaranteed no matter what, even if he had broken his neck in the first game of the new contract. Stars get those kind of contracts, of course position players get less of a guarantee.
Yeah, they are starting to work alot more guarentees into the deals, moreso than they did in the past which is a good thing.
Feb 18, 2014 10:49am
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Feb 18, 2014 10:54 AM
Anyway you look at it, it is better to secure a new deal than to play under the tag.
Feb 18, 2014 10:54am
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Feb 18, 2014 11:03 AM
se-alum;1581944 wrote:Anyway you look at it, it is better to secure a new deal than to play under the tag.
No doubt, and that is why guys hate getting tagged.

Didnt they do away with the transitional tag awhile ago where it was the avg of the top 10 of your spot?
Feb 18, 2014 11:03am
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Feb 19, 2014 5:04 PM
But, but he was acquitted.
Feb 19, 2014 5:04pm
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Feb 19, 2014 5:18 PM
Surprised to see that from Ray Rice. I always viewed him as a decent character guy.

Spitting in someone's face is low, but you can't KO a bitch over it.
Feb 19, 2014 5:18pm
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Feb 19, 2014 5:22 PM
Automatik;1582462 wrote:Surprised to see that from Ray Rice. I always viewed him as a decent character guy.

Spitting in someone's face is low, but you can't KO a bitch over it.
He spit in Phil Taylor's face. Sounds like the punk can't take his own medicine.
Feb 19, 2014 5:22pm
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Feb 19, 2014 5:26 PM
Commander of Awesome;1582465 wrote:He spit in Phil Taylor's face. Sounds like the punk can't take his own medicine.
Beat me to it. It's unfortunate PT didn't give scumbag rice the same treatment rice gave his fiance.
Feb 19, 2014 5:26pm
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Feb 19, 2014 5:26 PM
like_that;1582467 wrote:Beat me to it. It's unfortunate PT didn't give scumbag rice the same treatment rice gave his fiance.
Great point. 10/10 would read again.
Feb 19, 2014 5:26pm
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Feb 19, 2014 9:09 PM
I demand a "POS" title lol. This has to put him beyond Tomlin.

Just don't understand how you hit a woman. Ravens falling apart. Good thing they have Flacco
Feb 19, 2014 9:09pm
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Feb 20, 2014 10:18 AM
Ironman92;1582551 wrote:I demand a "POS" title lol. This has to put him beyond Tomlin.

Just don't understand how you hit a woman. Ravens falling apart. Good thing they have Flacco[/QUOTE


and his over the top contract for his ability.
Feb 20, 2014 10:18am
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Feb 22, 2014 11:22 AM
LOL NFL might be dishing out 15 yard penalties for racial slurs and ejection for a 2nd. What a fucking retarded idea.
Feb 22, 2014 11:22am
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Feb 23, 2014 10:16 AM
Rotinaj;1583347 wrote:LOL NFL might be dishing out 15 yard penalties for racial slurs and ejection for a 2nd. What a fucking retarded idea.
Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. When does it become a racial slur, only when it's said to someone of a different ethnicity or would black on black racial remarks get a penalty?
Feb 23, 2014 10:16am
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Feb 24, 2014 10:18 AM
se-alum;1583573 wrote:Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. When does it become a racial slur, only when it's said to someone of a different ethnicity or would black on black racial remarks get a penalty?
Not a big Cowherd fan, but he made a great point this morning.

Until the black community can come up with a unified opinion of the word then there shouldnt really be any action to the word.

Some hate and will never say it, some say it all the time, some it bothers, some it doesnt.
Hell..if they cannot even come to terms on if it ok or not then how in the h ell is whitey supposed to know.
Feb 24, 2014 10:18am