OSH
Posts: 4,145
Feb 3, 2014 11:17am
You don't necessarily choose to get cancer. One chooses to do drugs -- knowing full-well addiction could be possible.queencitybuckeye;1575725 wrote:Really? It's an illness. If he'd died of cancer would you say the same?
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Feb 3, 2014 11:21am
He became addicted to prescription pills, which led to using heroin again.reclegend22;1575721 wrote:I definitely feel sympathy for him. It's not like he was planning to leave his kids behind when sticking that needle in his arm. He was (apparently at the time) alone and sick and probably an emotional wreck. Addiction is a disease.
That's crazy, though, that he was clean for 23 years before relapsing. Not that it matters, but it'd be interesting to know what triggered the slide back.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 11:23am
If you've ever eaten anything unhealthy, it's a perfect correlation.OSH;1575727 wrote:You don't necessarily choose to get cancer. One chooses to do drugs -- knowing full-well addiction could be possible.
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Sonofanump
Feb 3, 2014 11:29am
He stuck the needle in his arm.queencitybuckeye;1575725 wrote:Really? It's an illness. If he'd died of cancer would you say the same?
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MontyBrunswick
Feb 3, 2014 11:32am
What? No it isn't.queencitybuckeye;1575733 wrote:If you've ever eaten anything unhealthy, it's a perfect correlation.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 11:33am
Yes he did, due to the illness of addiction.Sonofanump;1575737 wrote:He stuck the needle in his arm.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 11:34am
of course it is.dlazz;1575740 wrote:What? No it isn't.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Feb 3, 2014 11:36am
dlazz;1575436 wrote:Not a whole lot.
I went through his IMDB list. The only two movies of his I've seen were The Big Lebowski (which sucked) and Boogie Nights.
lol +1.SportsAndLady;1575441 wrote:The big lebowski didn't suck, you are just a gigantic loser.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 3, 2014 11:36am
Get what you are saying, but think it is a bit of a stretch.queencitybuckeye;1575745 wrote:of course it is.
Always sad when someone dies I guess, but when it is at their own doing I dont have as much compassion for them.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 11:41am
I guess that's a sentiment I struggle to understand. Do people have a finite amount of compassion, so they need to divvy it out based on who is more or less deserving?thavoice;1575749 wrote:
Always sad when someone dies I guess, but when it is at their own doing I dont have as much compassion for them.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 3, 2014 11:46am
No.queencitybuckeye;1575725 wrote:Really? It's an illness. If he'd died of cancer would you say the same?
You learn at a very young age how bad drugs are....then trying to be cool or curious you start doing them.
I just don't put someone carrying needles around into the same boat as cancer.
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Sonofanump
Feb 3, 2014 11:48am
I don't feel sorry for glutinous lazy people who have related health issues. You put the fried shit in you mouth with a shovel, no one else did.queencitybuckeye;1575733 wrote:If you've ever eaten anything unhealthy, it's a perfect correlation.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 3, 2014 11:49am
I guess it is no different than having more compassion for a kid who dies over someone who is 80.queencitybuckeye;1575754 wrote:I guess that's a sentiment I struggle to understand. Do people have a finite amount of compassion, so they need to divvy it out based on who is more or less deserving?
Or someone who dies via an accident, or by someone else's hand, or as other state an illness such as cancer.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 11:57am
Nearly every human being has contributed in some way to the condition that killed them. Therefore, your position need be that you have little or no human compassion. That's certainly your right. Personally, I'd hate to live that way.Sonofanump;1575760 wrote:I don't feel sorry for glutinous lazy people who have related health issues. You put the fried shit in you mouth with a shovel, no one else did.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Feb 3, 2014 11:59am
Some more than others....a lot more. That may be why the variation of compassion is felt.queencitybuckeye;1575770 wrote:Nearly every human being has contributed in some way to the condition that killed them. ....
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 12:04pm
I get it. I guess I'm just lazy and choose to consider my compassion binary. Making a bad choice decades ago that leads to an illness related to one's demise isn't a disqualifying event for me.Con_Alma;1575772 wrote:Some more than others....a lot more. That may be why the variation of compassion is felt.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Feb 3, 2014 12:07pm
queencitybuckeye;1575775 wrote:I get it. I guess I'm just lazy and choose to consider my compassion binary. Making a bad choice decades ago that leads to an illness related to one's demise isn't a disqualifying event for me.
I think it's great you get to process in detail your decision making as it relates to compassion. Shouldn't we afford the others the ability to do the same in their own way?
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Sonofanump
Feb 3, 2014 12:08pm
I had an extremely healthy lunch. If someone wants to eat a Big Mac and fries, that's their problem when they have future health issues because of it. I won't say it was tragic that they died early due to health issues.queencitybuckeye;1575770 wrote:Nearly every human being has contributed in some way to the condition that killed them. Therefore, your position need be that you have little or no human compassion. That's certainly your right. Personally, I'd hate to live that way.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 12:11pm
I don't see where we have not done so.Con_Alma;1575780 wrote:I think it's great you get to process in detail your decision making as it relates to compassion. Shouldn't we afford the others the ability to do the same in their own way?
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Sonofanump
Feb 3, 2014 12:11pm
I have plenty of compassion.
Do I feel sorry for those with multiple TV's, buys alcohol and cigs and lives in poverty in the USA, no.
Do I feel sorry for those eating dirt in the Dominican Republic, absolutely.
Do I feel sorry for those with multiple TV's, buys alcohol and cigs and lives in poverty in the USA, no.
Do I feel sorry for those eating dirt in the Dominican Republic, absolutely.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 3, 2014 12:12pm
One can eat a big mac and fries for lunch and it not be a big deal down the road. All about moderation. Hell, someone could eat 4 big macs in one setting and it not be a big deal.Sonofanump;1575781 wrote:I had an extremely healthy lunch. If someone wants to eat a Big Mac and fries, that's their problem when they have future health issues because of it. I won't say it was tragic that they died early due to health issues.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 3, 2014 12:14pm
That's fine.Sonofanump;1575760 wrote:I don't feel sorry for glutinous lazy people who have related health issues. You put the fried shit in you mouth with a shovel, no one else did.
My grandma was a 5'6 135 LB woman who never smoked and worked two jobs (one being a factory)....she died of cancer at age 60.....her brother very similar died at age 54 of cancer.
Not all cancer is a product of poor health choices.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Feb 3, 2014 12:14pm
???queencitybuckeye;1575786 wrote:I don't see where we have not done so.
I don't know that we haven't ....and for that I'm glad.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 12:15pm
No one's saying you have to. You can be as holier than thou as you choose to be.Sonofanump;1575781 wrote:I had an extremely healthy lunch. If someone wants to eat a Big Mac and fries, that's their problem when they have future health issues because of it. I won't say it was tragic that they died early due to health issues.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 3, 2014 12:16pm
Then why did you bring it up?Con_Alma;1575796 wrote:???
I don't know that we haven't ....and for that I'm glad.