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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:34am
Interesting, because you could reverse the gays and straights in this quote and it describes me perfectly. But you are making it about the gays, and that's not what this is about. It's about a group taking advantage of a situation to push an agenda. I'd be pissed if it were a political group pushing some political agenda too. Not the right forum for it. And it was CLEARLY an agenda push.Laley23;1572751 wrote: Nobody who is gay gives 2 fucks about what anyone does with their life. They dont give 2 fucks if you are straight and are content in your marriage to the opposite sex.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Jan 27, 2014 10:36am
All of this.Laley23;1572751 wrote:Thats not the same at all.
Pushing gayness and is NOT pushing anti-straightness.
Nobody who is gay gives 2 fucks about what anyone does with their life. They dont give 2 fucks if you are straight and are content in your marriage to the opposite sex. All they care about is having the ability to do the same things, ie, marriage.
Now, on the flip side, people who are anti-gay clearly do care and literally spend countless hours of their lives trying to keep gay people unhappy. It makes no sense. If we didnt have anti-gay, we wouldnt have anything to push down our throats.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:37am
Also, this describes perfectly how people think it is ok to have one view, but not the other. If it's ok to be for gay marriage, it's just as ok to be against it. But for some reason, if you take on one of the stances, you aren't allowed to be "right".Laley23;1572751 wrote: Now, on the flip side, people who are anti-gay clearly do care and literally spend countless hours of their lives trying to keep gay people unhappy. It makes no sense. If we didnt have anti-gay, we wouldnt have anything to push down our throats.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:37am
All of this.WebFire;1572755 wrote:Interesting, because you could reverse the gays and straights in this quote and it describes me perfectly. But you are making it about the gays, and that's not what this is about. It's about a group taking advantage of a situation to push an agenda. I'd be pissed if it were a political group pushing some political agenda too. Not the right forum for it. And it was CLEARLY an agenda push.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 27, 2014 10:39am
^^^you have to give people a chance to evolve.
Old predjudices and beliefs are deeply ingrained, and you can't legislate them out of people's heads. With time, good people come around, but you have to give them time. Pushing an agenda such as this does more harm than good.
Old predjudices and beliefs are deeply ingrained, and you can't legislate them out of people's heads. With time, good people come around, but you have to give them time. Pushing an agenda such as this does more harm than good.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2014 10:40am
I was answering your anti-gay protest for next year question lol.WebFire;1572755 wrote:Interesting, because you could reverse the gays and straights in this quote and it describes me perfectly. But you are making it about the gays, and that's not what this is about. It's about a group taking advantage of a situation to push an agenda. I'd be pissed if it were a political group pushing some political agenda too. Not the right forum for it. And it was CLEARLY an agenda push.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 27, 2014 10:41am
Threads about award shows get a lot more entertaining when politards jump on to bitch because they saw something they didn't want to see.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 27, 2014 10:41am
Kacey Musgraves.
Would marry.
Would marry.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:42am
Right, and you basically said they shouldn't.Laley23;1572763 wrote:I was answering your anti-gay protest for next year question lol.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2014 10:42am
Thats fine, they are allowed to be on whatever side they want.WebFire;1572758 wrote:Also, this describes perfectly how people think it is ok to have one view, but not the other. If it's ok to be for gay marriage, it's just as ok to be against it. But for some reason, if you take on one of the stances, you aren't allowed to be "right".
My point is, why is there a side to begin with?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:43am
Because the government won't stay out of marriage.Laley23;1572769 wrote:Thats fine, they are allowed to be on whatever side they want.
My point is, why is there a side to begin with?
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 27, 2014 10:44am
I just googled it. 10.5 years..August 2003. That's how long it took to going from two chicks kissing on cable tv being outrageous to gays being married on basic cable. And in case you missed it, well put some bench warming gay in the first lady's box for the SOTU.
We've come along way from a church at the center of every town to oppressing the people that go to that church, but damn is it escalated.
We've come along way from a church at the center of every town to oppressing the people that go to that church, but damn is it escalated.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Jan 27, 2014 10:44am
Feel free to be for or against gay marriage. I truly don't care. I still fail to see how couples (gay and straight) getting married last night effected anyone in a negative way whatsoever. If you didn't want to see it, all you had to do was change the channel. No one was forced to watch anything or have it shoved down their throats.WebFire;1572758 wrote:Also, this describes perfectly how people think it is ok to have one view, but not the other. If it's ok to be for gay marriage, it's just as ok to be against it. But for some reason, if you take on one of the stances, you aren't allowed to be "right".
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 27, 2014 10:45am
Why do you get to say "I don't like it, it shouldn't be on TV"? What makes your view the one that gets to decide what is and isn't right? And that's not blocking you from having your opinion. Including country music in a broadcast isn't a denial of other music genre's and including something gay in a broadcast isn't somehow anti-straight.WebFire;1572758 wrote:Also, this describes perfectly how people think it is ok to have one view, but not the other. If it's ok to be for gay marriage, it's just as ok to be against it. But for some reason, if you take on one of the stances, you aren't allowed to be "right".
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 27, 2014 10:45am
Automatik;1572766 wrote:Kacey Musgraves.
Would marry.
Does she straighten your arrow?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:45am
Marriage should be left to the churches, and they can decide who they marry. Government should only do civil unions, and I am fine with gays being included and getting the same benefits.WebFire;1572770 wrote:Because the government won't stay out of marriage.
See, it's NOT about being anti-gay at all. Because I'm not. I don't care about someone's sexual preference. I do care about them parading around with agenda's to make everyone accept gay marriage, or being gay in general.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 27, 2014 10:46am
Lol. Yeah, you're so oppressed.bases_loaded;1572771 wrote:I just googled it. 10.5 years..August 2003. That's how long it took to going from two chicks kissing on cable tv being outrageous to gays being married on basic cable. And in case you missed it, well put some bench warming gay in the first lady's box for the SOTU.We've come along way from a church at the center of every town to oppressing the people that go to that church, but damn is it escalated.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:47am
Umm, it's a music show. Stick to music. Why would that be so hard to understand and do? That seems like a question that wasn't well thought out.I Wear Pants;1572774 wrote:Why do you get to say "I don't like it, it shouldn't be on TV"? What makes your view the one that gets to decide what is and isn't right? And that's not blocking you from having your opinion. Including country music in a broadcast isn't a denial of other music genre's and including something gay in a broadcast isn't somehow anti-straight.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2014 10:47am
They should not.WebFire;1572768 wrote:Right, and you basically said they shouldn't.
I dont see the correlation to being anti-gay and pro-gay, as in, being on different sides is not of equal value, imo.
One of them is advocating for the ability to be married, not taking away anything from the straight community. The other is clearly trying to keep others from making a life choice and being happy. Thats where my issue is. If you want to preach all about straight marriage, go right ahead. You wont see anyone from the gay community protesting it. THAT, to me, would be the opposite side. Being anti-gay, imo, is not the opposite side because it is not a similar argument.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Jan 27, 2014 10:48am
I found it quite hilarious myself.I Wear Pants;1572777 wrote:Lol. Yeah, you're so oppressed.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 27, 2014 10:48am
So you'd be ok with an anti-gay marriage group taking that opp to go on stage and preach it? I doubt that.I Wear Pants;1572774 wrote:Why do you get to say "I don't like it, it shouldn't be on TV"? What makes your view the one that gets to decide what is and isn't right? And that's not blocking you from having your opinion. Including country music in a broadcast isn't a denial of other music genre's and including something gay in a broadcast isn't somehow anti-straight.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2014 10:49am
And for the record, I am just in this discussion in terms of the actual content.
What the Grammys did was just dumb, imo. Why would you marry people at a music show?? lol
What the Grammys did was just dumb, imo. Why would you marry people at a music show?? lol
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 27, 2014 10:50am
Their opinions are the most oppressed in the country. Everyone has freedom of speech but only theirs comes with negative consequences and connotations.I Wear Pants;1572777 wrote:Lol. Yeah, you're so oppressed.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 27, 2014 10:51am
Having a gay marriage is not anti-anything so comparing it to an anti-gay group doesn't make any sense. Some people getting married isn't the same as a political activism speech.WebFire;1572781 wrote:So you'd be ok with an anti-gay marriage group taking that opp to go on stage and preach it? I doubt that.
I'd be okay with having any type of marriage on stage since that's the only valid comparison to be made.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 27, 2014 10:52am
No they aren't. At all. But for everyone's entertainment please tell us how Christians are so oppressed in the United States.bases_loaded;1572784 wrote:Their opinions are the most oppressed in the country. Everyone has freedom of speech but only theirs comes with negative consequences and connotations.